Ukraine and the Russian invasion, Feb 2022 - tangentially related crap

[RD2003]

Roger Waters is all a bit yeh but wrt the conflict.

FWIW, The floyd were dead and buried to me by the time the wall came out.

I don't much care for the later, 'activist' Roger Waters, but his earlier grinding pessimism was great. There's a man after my own heart...

I'm not over-fond of PF, but Animals and The Final Cut tell it like it is.

And whatever he says about anything else, it's important to have dissenting, critical voices about the war in Ukraine. Even if it will culminate in a last track on The Final Cut way...

 

[Ax^]

*straps emself In

so The Final Cut way

tell me more

...

 

[RD2003]

*straps emself In

so The Final Cut way

tell me more

...

Listen to it. It won't be me making you have to strap yourself in.

 

[Ax^]

aye doom for the whole word as Putin is do an 80s remix ...


hmm after 13 months of this really

 

[The39thStep]

Good grief . Hopefully, the Yanks won't be calling Bono or Geldoff in response

 

[RD2003]

aye doom for the whole word as Putin is do an 80s remix ...


hmm after 13 months of this really

Yeah, maybe don't worry. Put a Ukraine flag on your Twatter and relax.

 

[RD2003]

Good grief . Hopefully, the Yanks won't be calling Bono or Geldoff in response

I don't agree with him, but I like it that he hasn't gone down the establishment lackey road.

Showing the true spirit of rock n'roll, man.

 

[Ax^]

about as useful as russian built civilian shelters

does that not appear like public preception inside Russia is going south :hmm

 

[tim]

I don't agree with him, but I like it that he hasn't gone down the establishment lackey road.

Showing the true spirit of rock n'roll, man.

Don't be so coy. We all know you agree with him.
As for lackeydom, isn't turning up at the UN as a representative of a government just the sort of thing lackeys do?

 

[nogojones]

I don't agree with him, but I like it that he hasn't gone down the establishment lackey road.

Showing the true spirit of rock n'roll, man.

Well, maybe a lackey of the Russian establishment.

 

[RD2003]

Don't be so coy. We all know you agree with him.
As for lackeydom, isn't turning up at the UN as a representative of a government just the sort of thing lackeys do?

Second-guess all you like. All I can see is that he says what he wants instead of what he's told or pressured to think like so many others who are keen to fall in line with the mindless, media-driven consensus.

 

[RD2003]

Well, maybe a lackey of the Russian establishment.

Well if he is it still makes a refreshing change and adds to the vibrant exchange of opinions.

 

[tim]

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Well if he is it still makes a refreshing change and adds to the vibrant exchange of opinions.

He's hardly the first lackey on the scene is he? We already have: Galloway, Williamson, Tucker Carlson, Pilger, Grimes and many others. None of whom are particularly refreshing or have particularly vibrant opinions to exchange.

 

[RD2003]

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He's hardly the first lackey on the scene is he? We already have: Galloway, Williamson, Tucker Carlson, Pilger, Grimes and many others. None of whom are particularly refreshing or have particularly vibrant opinions to exchange.

The problem with that lot is their monopoly of the media. You can't turn the telly on these days without being harangued by a de-facto Putin apologist.

 

[LDC]

Second-guess all you like. All I can see is that he says what he wants instead of what he's told or pressured to think like so many others who are keen to fall in line with the mindless, media-driven consensus.

What a sad state of affairs that you're defending him on that absurd level. You just missed out saying MSM and globalist elites.

 

[tim]

The problem with that lot is their monopoly of the media. You can't turn the telly on these days without being harangued by a de-facto Putin apologist.

i never turn on the telly, so I'm not in position to comment

 

[RD2003]

What a sad state of affairs that you're defending him on that absurd level. You just missed out saying MSM and globalist elites.

Unlike many on here I can't get upset about the fact that not everybody thinks the same.

 

[tim]

Unlike many on here I can't get upset about the fact that not everybody thinks the same.

Do you not find it odd that those who think they don't think the same as others think the same as all the others who think that they don't think the as others?

 

[RD2003]

Do you not find it odd that those who think they don't think the same as others think the same as all the others who think that they don't think the as others?

I find it weird that so many people can't seem to tolerate opinions they don't approve of.

Especially people with quite a few decades under their belts, who really should have learned by now that the world isn't merely an extension of them.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I find it weird that so many people can't seem to tolerate opinions they don't approve of.

Especially people with quite a few decades under their belts, who really should have learned by now that the world isn't merely an extension of them.

So get used to it.

 

[Ax^]

people have different view points RD2023 but people view tend to grow over the years and months

with this subject its gone from people being deeply afraid to a bit more indifferent about

suppose it was the same way during the cold war as well with similar events going on


tbf happy most people are less worried about it now than when its started


seeming as the guy who cannot get his military to function at a competent manner at all
and has resorted to pull conscripts up whilst trying to say this is the main thrust of the war

whilst still claiming to nuke us all out of existence every other day

you get indifferent to it and some poeple who keep bring out the "angry russian bear" in the room

 

[RD2003]

people have different view points RD2023 but people view tend to grow over the years and months

No they don't.

 

[RD2003]

with this subject its gone from people being deeply afraid to a bit more indifferent about

suppose it was the same way during the cold war as well with similar events going on


tbf happy most people are less worried about it now than when its started


seeming as the guy who cannot get his military to function at a competent manner at all
and has resorted to pull conscripts up whilst trying to say this is the main thrust of the war

whilst still claiming to nuke us all out of existence every other day

you get indifferent to it and some poeple who keep bring out the "angry russian bear" in the room

As for the rest, I don't get the relevance to what's been said in the posts immediately above.

 

[Ax^]

No they don't.

oh yes they do....


#unexpected panto

 

[krink]

oh yes they do....


#unexpected panto

 

[Pickman's model]

No they don't.

Yes they do often first up then out

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Ukraine war: How the conflict is creating family rifts in Russia

 

[Dystopiary]

A Latvian delegate at the OSCE parliamentary assembly in Vienna stood up and spoke out against having Russian delegates present.
At the end of the tirade he quoted the Snake Island border guards to them.

A Russian delegate then opposed what he said, during which a bunch of delegates from multiple countries got up and left the room.

Rihards Kols the Latvian MP at OSCE

Russian response and delegates leaving

 

[strung out]

Fascinating article here from a Russian speaking Ukrainian talking about her relationship with Russian cultural imperialism, Ukrainian nationalism and eventual abandonment of her mother tongue since the invasion.

Mother Tongue: The Story of a Ukrainian Language Convert

How one Ukrainian woman made the switch from her native Russian tongue to Ukrainian

newlinesmag.com

 

[PR1Berske]