Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-25

[frogwoman]

If Russia totally shut down the internet it would cause chaos, mind you he already has

 

[existentialist]

i don't suppose there are any plans for a defence of the united kingdom from a russian invasion

We think they might start in Holland Park and Belgrav...oh,it's already started.

 

[frogwoman]

I'm also a bit concerned about innocent Russians being the target of hate crimes in other countries tbh

 

[cupid_stunt]

If Russia totally shut down the internet it would cause chaos, mind you he already has

Funny how so many other countries have done it, without causing that much chaos, sadly it's a common tool in the box.

Over the past year, billions of people all over the world have relied heavily on internet connectivity to keep in touch with family and friends, learn online, work from home and get vital information about the coronavirus pandemic.

Yet over the course of 2020, 29 countries intentionally shut down or slowed their internet communications at least 155 times, according to a new report published by Access Now, a non-profit digital rights group.

Mapping internet shutdowns around the world

In 2020, India topped list of 29 countries that blocked access to the internet despite increased demand during COVID-19.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[2hats]

Russia's defense ministry has just issued a statement saying that the levels of radiation in the plant's surrounding area are "normal." In our experience radiation levels are always "normal" when Russia monitors them.

Note that there are 15 other active reactors at 4 power plants across Ukraine.

 

[dilute micro]

More vid on this.

 

[Flavour]

Putin's accusations of neo-nazism in the Kiev government are all the more ridiculous considering that Zelensky is jewish

 

[weepiper]

 

[Rob Ray]

Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com is a bit off and on (and obv take it with the same amount of seriousness as any other set of collated sources) but gives an idea of where things are happening.

 

[nogojones]

i wouldn't be surprised if the rationale behind that was about vehicle borne improvised explosive devices, or car bombs for short.

I'll drive over the bomb to stop it going off.

Na. That tank driver was just a cunt.

 

[cupid_stunt]

More bluster from the Putin regime.

Russia’s foreign ministry spokesperson, Maria Zakharova, has warned both Finland and Sweden that they will face “detrimental military and political consequences” if they attempt to join Nato.

Zakharova was speaking at a press conference in Moscow earlier this afternoon, where she warned that the Nato accession of either Finland or Sweden would spark a serious response from Moscow, "We regard the Finnish government’s commitment to a military non-alignment policy as an important factor in ensuring security and stability in northern Europe."

LINK

 

[Pickman's model]

I'll drive over the bomb to stop it going off.

Na. That tank driver was just a cunt.

Not saying it's binary btw

 

[8ball]

I thought is it was clear that I wasn't being that serious, but I am surprised they are only going to “partly limit” access to FB, in fact I am surprised they haven't cut the internet off completely. together with the phone networks, that's sort of expected in situations like this, so that's the bonus.

I guess it's good to remember things may be a little raw for some people here who may have friend or family links to either country.

 

[scalyboy]

Putin's accusations of neo-nazism in the Kiev government are all the more ridiculous considering that Zelensky is jewish

I would guess he was alluding to the far-right elements who were among the crowds during the EuroMaidan mass protests of 2013-2014. I’m not aware of any state-organised far-right or neo-Nazi policies enacted by the Ukrainian govt since 2014 & Lukashenko’s hasty departure.

So I agree with you and class Putin’s accusations about neo-Nazis alongside his claims of genocide in Donetsk, or the Ukrainian govt being composed of drug addicts - bollocks, in other words, but presumably intended for a domestic audience.

 

[frogwoman]

Yes there were neo Nazi activists involved in the maidan but there are fash involved in anti war etc protests here. That doesn't mean that Putin should bomb anywhere

 

[scalyboy]

Could the accusations of Ukrainian govt drug addicts be a case of projection? If Putin who has long portrayed himself as a strong, tough, outdoorsman is now reliant on steroid or other medication he might well be unhappy at this.

(Incidentally, he may be on prednisilone or another steroid, but not necessarily for Parkinson’s - my Mum was prescribed it for rheumatoid arthritis. And she had similar facial changes - a rounding or softening of the features, she would ruefully speak of her ‘moon face’ )

 

[scalyboy]

Yes there were neo Nazi activists involved in the maidan but there are fash involved in anti war etc protests here. That doesn't mean that Putin should bomb anywhere

100% agree. It’s a distraction by Putin

 

[eoin_k]

Other footage from a different angle shows an ambush taking place on another vehicle when the tank swerves.... Not defending the driver, but the situation was a bit messier than this angle suggests FWIW.

 

[dilute micro]

Mad respect for those guys. True leadership.

 

[frogwoman]

Addicted to botox that's for sure lol

Could the accusations of Ukrainian govt drug addicts be a case of projection? If Putin who has long portrayed himself as a strong, tough, outdoorsman is now reliant on steroid or other medication he might well be unhappy at this.

(Incidentally, he may be on prednisilone or another steroid, but not necessarily for Parkinson’s - my Mum was prescribed it for rheumatoid arthritis. And she had similar facial changes - a rounding or softening of the features, she would ruefully speak of her ‘moon face’ )

 

[bimble]

It must be a bit annoying, that the president is Jewish, of the country that you claim you need to invade so as to “denazify” it.

 

[kebabking]

’s why kebabking hasn’t posted this afternoon . He’s trying to knock one up before five.

I'm a bit offended that you think I might be doing any work after elevenses on POETS day...

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm a bit offended that you think I might be doing any work after elevenses

C4U

 

[agricola]

It must be a bit annoying, that the president is Jewish, of the country that you claim you need to invade so as to “denazify” it.

Isn't the association of Nazis and Ukraine something that dates back to when the Soviets had to deal with the UPA?

 

[weltweit]

I couldn't understand why BBC journalists in Kiev were pronouncing the city name Kyiv, sounds like Kiiv, but it turns out only Russians call it Kiev and at the moment proper pronunciation is more important than normally.

 

[nogojones]

Could the accusations of Ukrainian govt drug addicts be a case of projection? If Putin who has long portrayed himself as a strong, tough, outdoorsman is now reliant on steroid or other medication he might well be unhappy at this.

(Incidentally, he may be on prednisilone or another steroid, but not necessarily for Parkinson’s - my Mum was prescribed it for rheumatoid arthritis. And she had similar facial changes - a rounding or softening of the features, she would ruefully speak of her ‘moon face’ )

I got lots of shit done when I was on high dose pred. The house was never so clean. I'm now more worried about what Putin is capable of.

 

[8ball]

Could the accusations of Ukrainian govt drug addicts be a case of projection? If Putin who has long portrayed himself as a strong, tough, outdoorsman is now reliant on steroid or other medication he might well be unhappy at this.

(Incidentally, he may be on prednisilone or another steroid, but not necessarily for Parkinson’s - my Mum was prescribed it for rheumatoid arthritis. And she had similar facial changes - a rounding or softening of the features, she would ruefully speak of her ‘moon face’ )

The treatment of Parkinson's with steroids is a preventative (ie. aimed at avoiding deterioration as opposed to established treatments aimed at alleviating symptoms), and currently experimental thing as far as I am aware.
It is exactly the sort of thing I would expect his doctors to do if speculation is correct, though.

 

[8ball]

It must be a bit annoying, that the president is Jewish, of the country that you claim you need to invade so as to “denazify” it.

"A bit annoying". Great art of understatement.

 

[Raheem]

I couldn't understand why BBC journalists in Kiev were pronouncing the city name Kyiv, sounds like Kiiv, but it turns out only Russians call it Kiev and at the moment proper pronunciation is more important than normally.

Not only Russians. British people as well.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Putin's accusations of neo-nazism in the Kiev government are all the more ridiculous considering that Zelensky is jewish

And some of his family died in the Holocaust:

"His grandfather, Semyon (Simon) Ivanovych Zelenskyy, served in the Red Army (in the 57th Guards Motor Rifle Division)[19] during World War II; Semyon's father and three brothers were killed in the Holocaust"

Volodymyr Zelenskyy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org