tony.c
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Ukip - why are they gaining support?
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I've not mentioned it before but I have encountered a whole lot of Ukip members or at least proto members: about 15 years ago in York, there was a meeting of the EU Finance Ministers and there were a number of public meetings to discuss the issues, I have to say they were a very odd lot, far from being all wealthy, usually very badly dressed with poor hygiene(yes I know, ill fitting suits and all that) and yes, their main issue was 'sovereignity' I think some of them will now be 'Freemen'
not-bono-ever
meh
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ukip-klf-frontman-bill-drummond-3514522
"he former pop star said it offended him in “so many ways”, adding it was “very cynically trying to pander to us at our most vulnerable and negative and not to our better selves”.
Drummond added: “This billboard not only offended me morally and aesthetically, it also went against everything that I feel political discourse should be about.”
The Birmingham-based artist said he had 1,000 litres of paint made up a decade ago so those who bought it could deface “anything you found to be morally or aesthetically offensive”.
“Basically I was in the business of promoting vandalism,” he admitted."
get in there bill !
"he former pop star said it offended him in “so many ways”, adding it was “very cynically trying to pander to us at our most vulnerable and negative and not to our better selves”.
Drummond added: “This billboard not only offended me morally and aesthetically, it also went against everything that I feel political discourse should be about.”
The Birmingham-based artist said he had 1,000 litres of paint made up a decade ago so those who bought it could deface “anything you found to be morally or aesthetically offensive”.
“Basically I was in the business of promoting vandalism,” he admitted."
get in there bill !
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DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Care to expand chuck?
This is it, make the fucking most of it because one minute you're getting drunk at weddings and heading into the hills to shoot deer the next you're playing Russian roulette in a cage full of dirty water. This is fucking it.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Meth or SB?
This is it
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Meth.
This is fucking it, this is it.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
'It's the quality of immigrants'
'There's too many'
Little Englander scum.
'There's too many'
Little Englander scum.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
oh god, my eyes!
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
gosub
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except that the tories plan of reforming the EU by 2017 then offering a referendum isn't credible. There will be a new treaty next parliament as there will need to be a new treaty towards the next tranch of federalism to try and fix the mess caused by the eurozone, so we get a referendum anyway.Today's Alex cartoon hits the mark:
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's the worst cartoon ever.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
UKIP now on highest ever polling with populus - 16% +2. Can't remember the reason they traditionally are quite hard on smaller parties - think it may be reallocation of don't knows. If so, a 16% from them is pretty solid.
gosub
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saw that bit Chuka was lying through his teeth :
Mr John Redwood (Wokingham) (Con): I would like the Secretary of State to clarify the legal position, because it seems to me that, under the law the previous Government introduced, Ministers were going to stay out of all these decisions, which would be trusted to an independent body; and that, under the 2004 European Union merger regulation that they signed up to, this is clearly a concentration that falls to be determined by Brussels regulation, not by this elected House of Commons. I therefore find it very surprising that the Opposition are demanding the Secretary of State to intervene, when he might end up in an illegal position if he tried to do so.
The Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills (Vince Cable): It is precisely because of the legal position that I have been studiously neutral on this matter. It is fair to say that there are elements of ambiguity—it is not absolutely clear—but the main position is exactly as the right hon. Gentleman described it: under the legislation we inherited from the Labour party, Ministers do not engage with decisions except in three very specific areas of public interest.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You mean their early leader who will be assasinated by Farage because he sees him as a threat?I dunno.
This is the picture they posted with that paragraph btw
"You're wearing trainers. You ain't coming in".
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Gives their steroid-withered genitals a bit of pep, playing soldiers does.
AFAICR, the last bunch of right-wingers who claimed to be made up of former military (CxF - "Combined Ex-Forces, a "division" of the EDL) turned out to be 50% Walter Mittys.
This bunch of bouncer-lookalikes are probably no different.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If they were that enthusiastic, they'd be wearing the red plantpots, not flat caps!
I didn't get that far(age) through Farage Time. Nigle Farage kept interrupting everone whuile David Nigel Farage kept interrupting everyone else and the audience of Nigel Farage seemed particularly Nigel Farage.
I can't cope with it anymore. I can't stand the fat faced cunt. I can't stand seeing his pious bullshit spewing wordhole pump out lie after lie. I can't stand him talking over everyone else while that stupid old bastard Dimblecunt continually prevents anyone else from speaking. Caroline Lucas, whatever you may think of her, tried to put some pro EU points across by listing what good they do. Dimblecunt just interrupted her saying it wasn't relevant! Of course it's relevant you stupid institutional reactionary tosser!
I'm so tired of this immigration shit and I'm so tired of UKIP appearing, virtually unchallenged, on the BBC night and fucking day. And it comes to something when it takes Shapps to be the only person to mention the number of UK people living and working abroad.
At least someone in the audience got a cheer by challenging Farage on the scam his mep's run, not turning up to do their job while taking EU money. They don't even care though; Farage is quite open about this being party tactics to defeat the evil EU.
Stupid bastard, I hope he fucking dies.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's saying a bit more than that, and playing on the resentment some first and second generation immigrants still feel about the progressive tightening of immigration rules between the late '60s and now.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If you're non-white and don't agree with the likes of HnH and UAF, then you're obviously a "faker".
You just know that the sad cunts probably didn't even SEE the racism in what they said.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If anything, they probably saw it militant anti-racism. That really wound me up yesterday.If you're non-white and don't agree with the likes of HnH and UAF, then you're obviously a "faker".
You just know that the sad cunts probably didn't even SEE the racism in what they said.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Well, there's the rub: What policies, Frank? So far, much of what we've heard from UKIP, both from the centre and the periphery, is deniable. Farage and his advisors have cleverly engineered a "screen" of plausible deniability around him, so that the views of his membership don't reflect on him, and they've kept policy so generalised and thin on the ground that demonstrating racism becomes a semantic rather than a political exercise.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
More like bouncers in flat caps, tbf.
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