Belfast held on to its until 1968.It was alright for oxbridge and other posh universities right up until relatively recently.
Ulster says NO NO.Belfast held on to its until 1968.
Have you got a proper cite for that? The nearest I can find is this, but it references a dead blog.
So, if we re-phrase Reverend Hampden’s notion, then we could assert with equal confidence that‘no man should get representation without taxation’.
I'm afraid logic doesn't work like that either.Logic doesn't work like that. If A -> B then ~B -> ~A.
I'm afraid logic doesn't work like that either.
If I am poisoned, I will die.
If I am not poisoned I will not die.
Doesn't follow, does it?
Not it doesn't, and your reversal changes nothing. It still assumes being poisoned is the only way to die.You're making a similar mistake. Think A = poisoned and B = die, so your second line becomes
I will not die if I am not poisoned. (i.e. ~B -> ~A)
And the logic works.
Do those of us who dont own the means of production get a cuddle and a free pass if voting for those wankers? If there are sections of support we are allowed to criticise without beijng flamed, it would be useful to have them clarified. If those sections are basically former tory petty bourgeoise types then that seems to be the biggest contingent. Read happens to have been declared bankrupt (not least after a dismal musical about Oscar Wilde bellyflopped). Theres every chance he needs to sell his labour to get by.
Depends whether you care more about moralistic posturing or about changing society.
These peopel are the first to argue they should pay less tax. So less of a vote for them.Thanks. What an idiot.
Basic logic fail in that article:
Umm.. no. Logic doesn't work like that. If A -> B then ~B -> ~A. To reverse Hampden's notion we would have to say representation requires taxation. That doesn't mean only those people who actually pay tax but all those who participate in the taxation system.
I've dealt with his shareholder perspective earlier, but really, if someone as inept as I at arguing can so easily dismiss his argument, it doesn't speak much for him, does it?
“For UKIP to choose such a figure as Robert Iwaszkiewicz as a bedfellow, apparently for money, is beyond belief. Nigel Farage now has some very serious questions to answer. He has placed in issue the credibility of UKIP."
The BoD are spot on there.
he's said that he is gravely concerned with farage's party sharing a political bloc in the EU with holocaust denying racists. So should we all be concerned (I thought that group collapsed the other day though?).
he's not said every ukip voter is a card carrying fascist which you have.
Now the Jewish Board Of Deputies have gone and said that racists are racist.
Where will it end?
http://www.bod.org.uk/live/content.php?Item_ID=130&Blog_ID=1302
Board Vice President Jonathan Arkush said: “The Board is gravely concerned by reports that UKIP may sit in the same parliamentary grouping as a far-right Polish MEP in a bid save its funding. Robert Iwaszkiewicz belongs to an extremist party whose leader has a history of Holocaust denial, racist remarks and misogynistic comments. He belongs to the far-right Polish JKM, led by Janusz Korwin-Mikke who has reportedly called into question the right of women to have the vote.
“Furthermore, we entirely reject UKIP’s justification that ‘All groups in the European Parliament have very odd bedfellows (and) The rules to get speaking time and funding are set by the EP, not UKIP’. Extremists and racists should be roundly rejected, not embraced. Even France's far right Front National rejected the JKM as being too extreme.
“For UKIP to choose such a figure as Robert Iwaszkiewicz as a bedfellow, apparently for money, is beyond belief. Nigel Farage now has some very serious questions to answer. He has placed in issue the credibility of UKIP."
I'll be happy to retract the image if he turns out to no longer be a capitalist scumbag.
No, not really, I'm not sure that this will be so easy to brush off. I expect that UKIP will be banking on the notion that this sort of obscure, Euro-politics is so remote to it's growing 'core' as to make little impact, but it is the sort of 'mud' that will be easily slung in the forthcoming campaign.Ideally, yes. But it's the sort of thing the amazing "nige" just brushes off. After all, detail is <yawn> in the new politics. Criticism is mere "leftie smears" and top of it all, he gets photographed with pints which seems a "get out of jail free" for just about anything.
I bet Griffin kicks himself he never tried that stunt.
In an interview with weekly magazine Najwyzszy Czas in 2008, he (K-M)said: “[Jews] are so proud of the six million murdered in the Holocaust, that it sometimes seems to me that if Eichmann had objected to sending the Hungarian Jews to the death camps, he could have been accused of antisemitism because it would have decrease the number murdered, which is brought up at every occassion.
“Maybe I am exaggerating a little, but don’t you see the sick carping on the left and right that so many Jews were murdered — even four times more than in reality?
“That the more victims there were, the better?”
Disturbing allies for sure.
Are you a member/supporter of the Green Party taffboy? I've vague memories that you are, but I could be mistaken.
Pathetic.Yes. It's not about members or supporters being fascist per se, but the patronising absurdity of people continually wanting to quell discussion of fascist (or racist and other reactionary) themes.
Just so we get this 100% clear - that's yes, you did make this?Yes.
Yes I am, though I don't evangalise about it on message boards.