UK to censor online videos of 'non-conventional' sex acts

[Nine Bob Note]

S'alright. Just means it'll be less embarrassing for everyone when their ISPs get hacked and their browsing history is made public

 

[kabbes]

It's going to be somebody's job to watch the most depraved sex acts people can think of committing to film and deciding whether or not they are sex-approved or not.

 

[weltweit]

Missionary position, whether in a convent or not! except with animals.

 

[weltweit]

Whatever MPs do.

No wait ...

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Whatever MPs do.

No wait ...

That's another positive when the data inevitably gets leaked - we get to find out which technologically unsound gay-hating tories and DUPers were poofters all along!

 

[Orang Utan]

Missionary position, whether in a convent or not! except with animals.

Just you try having sex with a horse in the missionary position.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Doggie style

oh bollocks. thats one of my fave things.

not so keen myself

i find that going outside and pissing on a lamp-post kinda destroys the moment...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's going to be somebody's job to watch the most depraved sex acts people can think of committing to film and deciding whether or not they are sex-approved or not.

Well, it'll get DotCommunist off the dole queue at least.

 

[Orang Utan]

So, DotCommunist , are rusty trombones in or out?
(in AND out obv)

 

[Raheem]

It's going to be somebody's job to watch the most depraved sex acts people can think of committing to film and deciding whether or not they are sex-approved or not.

More of a vocation, really.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

I mentioned VPN in t'other thread. Going to look into that - it's good for foreign Netflix apparently.

 

[DotCommunist]

Well, it'll get DotCommunist off the dole queue at least.

what's the pay like?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

what's the pay like?

Two boxes of Kleenex per hour.

 

[Raheem]

Two boxes of Kleenex per hour.

if you manage to get through the day any not use them all, you can potentially make a packet.

 

[gentlegreen]

According to the "R18" wiki, even soft focus nudity will be banned if the performer in question is smoking a spliff ...

Elf an safety ?

 

[rubbershoes]

So, anything with the lights on will be banned

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Fisting can now only be performed on camera by people who have lost a finger.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

More broadly of course it does mean the government have given themselves the power to make ISPs ban any site they don't like, without oversight. When other states ban sites it's generally for reasons of "the moral health of the nation".

 

[keithy]

More broadly of course it does mean the government have given themselves the power to make ISPs ban any site they don't like, without oversight. When other states ban sites it's generally for reasons of "the moral health of the nation".

THIS. It is worrying for reasons beyond sex.

 

[Raheem]

More broadly of course it does mean the government have given themselves the power to make ISPs ban any site they don't like, without oversight. When other states ban sites it's generally for reasons of "the moral health of the nation".

That's not at all clear. It seems like they're giving themselves the power to ban sites only if they have "unconventional" porn vids on them.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

That's not at all clear. It seems like they're giving themselves the power to ban sites only if they have "unconventional" porn vids on them.

They will be able to block sites which would not be certified for commercial DVD sale. What is certified for commercial DVD sale is decided without oversight purely by people they appoint. Whatever is portrayed can be absolutely legal and still be blocked.

It seems unlikely that the current administration will do more with this than ban certain sexual material for random reasons of prejudice which they don't have to justify, perhaps (likely IMO) eventually extending to sites which contain factual info on certain practices; you can just look at the sort of stuff that web filters routinely block as an example (not just related to sexuality - also graphic videos from the news). Future administrations could use this legislation to block pretty much anything.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

And you know what, leaving aside the issue of extended censorship of "proper" politics, the sort of thing that the Guardian might defend - let's be clear, this is already political censorship, it's blocking stuff for political reasons and nothing else. Why should there be an unaccountable body that decides what can be portrayed for their own reasons?

 

[classicdish]

The Bill refers to "adult content" which could include things relating to drug use or discussion of self harm or various other things that the BBFC 'regulate'

eg: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/BBFC Classification Guidelines 2014_5.pdf

Drugs

No work taken as a whole may promote the misuse of drugs and any detailed portrayal of drug misuse likely to promote the activity may be cut. Works which normalise or glamorise drug misuse are likely to receive a higher classification than works which show drug misuse while emphasising the dangers. Where smoking, alcohol abuse or substance misuse feature to a significant extent in works which appeal to children, this will normally be indicated in BBFCinsight. Classification decisions will also take into account any promotion or glamorisation of such activities.

 

[DotCommunist]

And you know what, leaving aside the issue of extended censorship of "proper" politics, the sort of thing that the Guardian might defend - let's be clear, this is already political censorship, it's blocking stuff for political reasons and nothing else. Why should there be an unaccountable body that decides what can be portrayed for their own reasons?

would you want your wife or servant watching Fisters of No Mercy #5?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

would you want your wife or servant watching Fisters of No Mercy #5?

Is the servant hot and economically exploitable? If so, give him my VPN key forthwith.

 

[Raheem]

The Bill refers to "adult content" which could include things relating to drug use or discussion of self harm or various other things that the BBFC 'regulate'

Where are you getting that information from?

 

[classicdish]

Where are you getting that information from?

This article: UK Government Confirm Move to Force ISPs into Blocking "Adult" Sites - ISPreview UK

"Naturally the Government focuses all of its energy on the word “pornographic“, while the legislation itself tends to prefer the much less specific “adult content” (i.e. open to interpretation and mission creep). We’ve seen in the past how dating websites, as well as sites that support victims of self-harm, social networks, sites that express different political views and medical sites can often end up being blocked because they are deemed to contain “adult content“."

I'll see if I can find the actual text of the Bill...

 

[Raheem]

This article: UK Government Confirm Move to Force ISPs into Blocking "Adult" Sites - ISPreview UK

What you have there is an article on ISPPreview.co.uk that uses the word "adult". The Bill uses the term "online pornography", which it defines as "produced solely or principally for the purposes of
sexual arousal". It really is difficult to see how you could have a situation where it gets used to apply to something that isn't pornography.

ETA: The bit you ETA'd just look like someone not having the first idea what they're talking about.

 

[Fez909]

It really is difficult to see how you could have a situation where it gets used to apply to something that isn't pornography.

UK govt to allow access to wrongly-blocked sites

Along with smut sites, David Cameron's porn filter has inadvertently blocked plenty of websites aiming to educate and inform about sex-related issues, as well as those reporting on news of torrent sites. Now the UK government is finally getting to work on allowing access to those wrongly-blocked sites, the BBC reports.

 

[classicdish]

What you have there is an article on ISPPreview.co.uk that uses the word "adult". The Bill uses the term "online pornography", which it defines as "produced solely or principally for the purposes of
sexual arousal". It really is difficult to see how you could have a situation where it gets used to apply to something that isn't pornography.

ETA: The bit you ETA'd just look like someone not having the first idea what they're talking about.

Fair enough - I've had a look at the latest text of the Bill http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2016-2017/0087/17087.pdf and it does seem to specifically confine itself to 'sexual arousal' at BBFC 18-rated materials and equivalent. It does include all BBFC R18-rated materials and equvalent but I think getting an R18 also relates specifically to porn stuff.

Before I checkd the actual text I assumed that they were aligning the Bill with current BBFC ratings on all 'adult' criteria rather than specifically sexual ones. It would help if newspapers/journalists were more careful and consistent in their reporting.