Yossarian
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When Jazzz once again posts up scans of his grandparents' passports and describes them as conspiracy theorists, the cycle will be complete.
UK courtroom to hear evidence against the official narrative of 9/11
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When Jazzz once again posts up scans of his grandparents' passports and describes them as conspiracy theorists, the cycle will be complete.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Wellll, the keenest Zionists such as the ADL as the strongest accusers of anti-semitism in the work of historians analysing the second world war. Are the ADL on the side of truth or not? The chief lawyer in the Lipstadt anti-David Irving libel trial was Anthony Julius, chairman of the ardently Zionist Jewish Chronicle. The Jewish Chronicle just can't stop attacking those who simply search for truth as conspiracy theorists.
Search conspiracy theory and you will find hundreds of hits:
http://archive.thejc.com/searchn/advsearch.jsp
"Isn't it time for the Jewish Chronicle and the ADL to come clean?"
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
Norman Finkelstein.
"I don't think it's useful for us to squander energy on conspiracy theories. There is so much that we know is wrong,
there is so much that we know that there is no debate, it's immoral, it's criminal and it's savage. Why don't we invest our energies which are scarce, our resources which are scarce and try to undo the evils about which there is no doubt
rather than speculate about things for which there is a great deal of doubt and which might just turn out to be
complete fanatsy."
"I don't think it's useful for us to squander energy on conspiracy theories. There is so much that we know is wrong,
there is so much that we know that there is no debate, it's immoral, it's criminal and it's savage. Why don't we invest our energies which are scarce, our resources which are scarce and try to undo the evils about which there is no doubt
rather than speculate about things for which there is a great deal of doubt and which might just turn out to be
complete fanatsy."
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
And our noam, innoculating against conspiracy theory by pointing out that there's no need for a conspiracy theory - it's all just people with money maximising their profit. It's not even as if they try to hide it. On being accused of being a conspiracy theorist:
"There's nothing more remote from what we have been discussing than a conspiracy theory. If I give an analysis of, say the economic system, and I point out that GM tries to maximize profit and market share - that's not a conspiracy theory; that's an institutional analysis. It has nothing to do with conspiracies. That's precisely the sense in which we've been talking about the media. The phrase "conspiracy theory" is one of those that's constantly brought up, and I think it's effect simply is to discourage institutional analysis."
"There's nothing more remote from what we have been discussing than a conspiracy theory. If I give an analysis of, say the economic system, and I point out that GM tries to maximize profit and market share - that's not a conspiracy theory; that's an institutional analysis. It has nothing to do with conspiracies. That's precisely the sense in which we've been talking about the media. The phrase "conspiracy theory" is one of those that's constantly brought up, and I think it's effect simply is to discourage institutional analysis."
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
The article doesn't really endorse the conspiracy, it just gives it space because the Daily Mail knows that lots of its readers hate the BBC. But for Jazz it's good simply because it's coverage.
fogbat
The Talibum
There's an email address?
God forbid anyone should get in touch and turn out to be mocking him
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Exactly the same thought process in the virulently antisemitic David Icke Forums:
See here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235259&page=6
'Credit to the Daily Mail!!!'
'They didn't use the phrase 'conspiracy theorist'? (surprise)'
'I know....
a watershed moment indeed....
Can't fault that article...'
'On the whole I agree, but there was one comment in the Mail article that made my blood boil, quote:
"....the BBC allegedly reported that World Trade Centre 7 had fallen 20 minutes before...."
Allegedly? It's a matter of record.'
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Ah but how can it be anti-semitic? It's not all Jews, just the ones who control the world and convince everyone that the holohoax was real.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Thanks to that I ended up up at this, which for complete loonspuddery takes some beating:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237039
Yossarian
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Thanks to that I ended up up at this, which for complete loonspuddery takes some beating:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237039
Isn't that just fairly standard Freeman on the Land shit?
At birth, a birth certificate application is signed by your parents which is used by Corporate Government to commence a Trust in your name. This Trust is used as collateral, and a collateral account is created and funded in your name. You are the Beneficiary of this Trust… but no-one tells you it exists. If you do not complete a Will by the age of 7, Corporate Government declares you deceased – under admiralty law of all things! – and you are officially considered by the system to be “lost at sea”. Seriously. Corporate Government then assumes financial control of your estate, and they – aware that most of us do in fact live beyond 7 – continue to treat us as living slaves. The funds generated by monetizing your life – using you as collateral – are loaned to you when you apply for bank finance, mortgages etc. You are then forced to work to repay those funds – plus interest – back to the system. Legally, you have no rights because you’re considered “dead” by the age of 7. You lose.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
It was the sheer amount of it and the tone of the responses that got me, it really is a religious cult.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Hold on a second. If I completed my will age 6, how does that prove that I lived past 7? Corporate Government would still declare me deceased - under admiralty law of all things, lol! - and i'd still be "lost at sea" in the system. Only my secret trust fund would go to my named beneficiaries instead of the greedy bastards.
I need to give this some more thought. Because at first glance it appears to have been written by a gibbon randomly circling words in a dictionary with a crayon.
I need to give this some more thought. Because at first glance it appears to have been written by a gibbon randomly circling words in a dictionary with a crayon.
fogbat
The Talibum
What evidence is provided for these claims?
(I know you don't believe it, but this shite makes me want to self-harm, so I try to avoid it)
fogbat
The Talibum
Typo.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
It's just sheer completely hatstand loonspuddery. A will signed by a six year old wouldn't even be legal.
It just makes me do this :
It just makes me do this :
binka
!!!!!!!!!
"and the powers that be, realising they were legally bested, packed up there bags and went home and we all lived happily ever after"Thanks to that I ended up up at this, which for complete loonspuddery takes some beating:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237039
it's funny how they all seem to think that the law is there to protect them and all they have to do is file the right documents and everything will work out ok in the end. it's almost like a religious faith in the righteousness of the law
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
frogwoman is entirely correct. David Icke is one of the more subtle of anti-semitic conspiracists. His standard response is that Nazism are a manifestation of Illuminatism, just as Zionism is.
"David Icke: The Holocaust wasn't fictional in the sense that vast numbers of Jewish people, Communists, gypsies and so on suffered abominations at the hands of the Illuminati-created Nazis. But what I also find grotesque is the exploitation of that suffering by those who were not there and seek only to advance their own agenda and line their own pockets. Norman Finklestein, whose parents were in the concentration camps, has written a magnificent expose of these people in his book, The Holocaust Industry. Highly recommended. Those who wish to suppress the exposure of the global conspiracy also use the treatment of the Jews in Germany to dub researchers racist because they reveal the manipulations of people like the Illuminati Rothschilds. It is not about protecting Jewish people from discrimination, but using Jewish people to protect their own self interests."
Who are the Illuminati Rothschilds how can they be separated from other Jewish people? Never told.
Telling the truth about the massacres becomes "exploitation of that suffering". The Illuminatis who control all states also perform classic antisemitism-based 'Jewish behaviour' including ritual murder of stolen children:
Q: You mentioned satanic rituals and dark government projects, can you elaborate on what these children are being used for? Is there any proof other than the missing children in themselves that would support your theory?
David Icke: This is a big subject that needs a lot of explanation. I am currently compiling a book with an American woman who has a fantastic story to tell about this. Yes there is evidence, tons of it, if only people would bother to look.
and control of all media, Jews control the media (in addition to the world economy)
Q: Mind Control; Who is using it? How we prevent it? What is the ultimate motive? Why is it that many of us feel that it is impossible for another to invade or control minds?
David Icke: Billions of people have had their minds invaded by believing the official story of 9/11 when it is a monumental lie. What is mind control? It is getting someone to think what you want them to think and therefore do what you want them to do. The mass of the people are mind-controlled every day just by watching the TV news.
Icke's masterstroke is being able to gather together fairly solid antisemites who have a major problem with Jewish culture within Western society, alongside those who are generally anti-immigration and quite right-wing who feel racism and racist mass murder are just connected too much, as well as those who are fixated on banking and want to try sanitised rebellion.
I use all kinds of terms to describe these people, including Satanists, and I don't talk about reptilians that much really because there are many other aspects of the conspiracy to communicate. People have to come into this research at a point where they feel comfortable and I am happy to talk about the conspiracy on any level that people want. If they want to talk about the banking scam, the reptilian connection or the fact that our entire reality is an illusion, that's fine by me. The point is: take what you want and leave what you don't. The silly thing to do is dismiss it all because you can't get your head around one aspect of it.
Because the 'lizard' thing has been used so much and Icke doesn't any more talk about them, there's a tendenancy among some potential followers (drawn in by failure of NHS treatment, personal loss, banking, genetically modified food etc) to then see 'Ah Icke, he's purposefully mistreated by the media because they are Illuminati-controlled, well they would say they wouldn't they'.
But David Icke's main purpose is antisemitic. His website articles he chooses to publish testify pretty openly in terms of politics:
Hitler was a Godsend for Israel
If Hitler didn't exist, the Zionists would have had to create him. Maybe they did. Thanks to Hitler, 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Israel between 1933 and 1941.
White South Africa Was Conquered by Guilt?
The moral implications of Apartheid can be debated but the fact of the matter is this: The current black government of South Africa was handed a rising super power and ran it into the ground. How did this happen?
Germany: Still Under Control of Foreign Powers
Two days prior to the enactment of the German constitution on 23 May 1949, a Secret Treaty (Geheimer Staatsvertrag) was signed, which gave complete Allied control over electronic and print media, film, culture and education until the year 2099.
'A Deep-Rooted Hatred of the British': How Israelis 'Armed Junta' in Falklands Conflict
Begin had such a deep-rooted hatred of the British that the Jewish state covertly became the biggest supplier of military equipment to the Argentine military junta.
Begin's "hatred of the British" has nothing to do with supplies to the junta, . Arguably France, US and Brazil are probably bigger suppliers - depending on what you measure - over the course of 1976-83. What Icke doesn't mention is how anti-semitic the Argentine parts of the junta were. How junior officers whilst using sticks in brutal sodomising torture against Jewish detainees who were resisting the junta, laughed with anti-Jewish swear words and played tapes of Hitler's speeches etc. Icke points solely to how anti-British an Israel Prime Minister was - presumably the reason he specifically sought to do pre-Camp David preliminaries with Egyptian aides in Leeds Castle, the reason why he considered Callaghan a friend etc etc.
British Death Camps In Germany After WWII is a link to The Guardian's report on the post-war Bad Nenndorf detention centre for interrogating Nazis in 1945 - not a "death camp" in order to carry out mass death, remarkably civilised in fact when compared to detention centres in Britain's colonies in Malaya, India and Burma at around the same time.
Ernst Zundel's Words Proven True - See For Yourself
Ernst Zundel has been denounced as crazy for saying that Germany is not a legal sovereign state, that the United States maintains illegal control over the nation. Now, the former head of German intelligence corroborates EXACTLY what Zundel has been saying for years!
Ernst Zundel is a long-time Holocaust conspiracist as well publisher for the first time of the classic 'The Hitler We Loved and Why', a sample here.
Nazi Jew Designed 'Final Solution'
a heretical Jewish Satanic cult, the Sabbatean Frankists, have plotted to exterminate the Jewish people since the 18th century. The hallmark of this cult is that they intermarry and impersonate members of other nations and religions, including Judaism. (Heydrich's background fits this profile. ) The Sabbatean-Frankists are the progenitors of the Illuminati, responsible for Communism, Fascism, Zionism, Socialism, Liberalism, Neo Conservatism and the NWO.
"David Icke: The Holocaust wasn't fictional in the sense that vast numbers of Jewish people, Communists, gypsies and so on suffered abominations at the hands of the Illuminati-created Nazis. But what I also find grotesque is the exploitation of that suffering by those who were not there and seek only to advance their own agenda and line their own pockets. Norman Finklestein, whose parents were in the concentration camps, has written a magnificent expose of these people in his book, The Holocaust Industry. Highly recommended. Those who wish to suppress the exposure of the global conspiracy also use the treatment of the Jews in Germany to dub researchers racist because they reveal the manipulations of people like the Illuminati Rothschilds. It is not about protecting Jewish people from discrimination, but using Jewish people to protect their own self interests."
Who are the Illuminati Rothschilds how can they be separated from other Jewish people? Never told.
Telling the truth about the massacres becomes "exploitation of that suffering". The Illuminatis who control all states also perform classic antisemitism-based 'Jewish behaviour' including ritual murder of stolen children:
Q: You mentioned satanic rituals and dark government projects, can you elaborate on what these children are being used for? Is there any proof other than the missing children in themselves that would support your theory?
David Icke: This is a big subject that needs a lot of explanation. I am currently compiling a book with an American woman who has a fantastic story to tell about this. Yes there is evidence, tons of it, if only people would bother to look.
and control of all media, Jews control the media (in addition to the world economy)
Q: Mind Control; Who is using it? How we prevent it? What is the ultimate motive? Why is it that many of us feel that it is impossible for another to invade or control minds?
David Icke: Billions of people have had their minds invaded by believing the official story of 9/11 when it is a monumental lie. What is mind control? It is getting someone to think what you want them to think and therefore do what you want them to do. The mass of the people are mind-controlled every day just by watching the TV news.
Icke's masterstroke is being able to gather together fairly solid antisemites who have a major problem with Jewish culture within Western society, alongside those who are generally anti-immigration and quite right-wing who feel racism and racist mass murder are just connected too much, as well as those who are fixated on banking and want to try sanitised rebellion.
I use all kinds of terms to describe these people, including Satanists, and I don't talk about reptilians that much really because there are many other aspects of the conspiracy to communicate. People have to come into this research at a point where they feel comfortable and I am happy to talk about the conspiracy on any level that people want. If they want to talk about the banking scam, the reptilian connection or the fact that our entire reality is an illusion, that's fine by me. The point is: take what you want and leave what you don't. The silly thing to do is dismiss it all because you can't get your head around one aspect of it.
Because the 'lizard' thing has been used so much and Icke doesn't any more talk about them, there's a tendenancy among some potential followers (drawn in by failure of NHS treatment, personal loss, banking, genetically modified food etc) to then see 'Ah Icke, he's purposefully mistreated by the media because they are Illuminati-controlled, well they would say they wouldn't they'.
But David Icke's main purpose is antisemitic. His website articles he chooses to publish testify pretty openly in terms of politics:
Hitler was a Godsend for Israel
If Hitler didn't exist, the Zionists would have had to create him. Maybe they did. Thanks to Hitler, 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Israel between 1933 and 1941.
White South Africa Was Conquered by Guilt?
The moral implications of Apartheid can be debated but the fact of the matter is this: The current black government of South Africa was handed a rising super power and ran it into the ground. How did this happen?
Germany: Still Under Control of Foreign Powers
Two days prior to the enactment of the German constitution on 23 May 1949, a Secret Treaty (Geheimer Staatsvertrag) was signed, which gave complete Allied control over electronic and print media, film, culture and education until the year 2099.
'A Deep-Rooted Hatred of the British': How Israelis 'Armed Junta' in Falklands Conflict
Begin had such a deep-rooted hatred of the British that the Jewish state covertly became the biggest supplier of military equipment to the Argentine military junta.
Begin's "hatred of the British" has nothing to do with supplies to the junta, . Arguably France, US and Brazil are probably bigger suppliers - depending on what you measure - over the course of 1976-83. What Icke doesn't mention is how anti-semitic the Argentine parts of the junta were. How junior officers whilst using sticks in brutal sodomising torture against Jewish detainees who were resisting the junta, laughed with anti-Jewish swear words and played tapes of Hitler's speeches etc. Icke points solely to how anti-British an Israel Prime Minister was - presumably the reason he specifically sought to do pre-Camp David preliminaries with Egyptian aides in Leeds Castle, the reason why he considered Callaghan a friend etc etc.
British Death Camps In Germany After WWII is a link to The Guardian's report on the post-war Bad Nenndorf detention centre for interrogating Nazis in 1945 - not a "death camp" in order to carry out mass death, remarkably civilised in fact when compared to detention centres in Britain's colonies in Malaya, India and Burma at around the same time.
Ernst Zundel's Words Proven True - See For Yourself
Ernst Zundel has been denounced as crazy for saying that Germany is not a legal sovereign state, that the United States maintains illegal control over the nation. Now, the former head of German intelligence corroborates EXACTLY what Zundel has been saying for years!
Ernst Zundel is a long-time Holocaust conspiracist as well publisher for the first time of the classic 'The Hitler We Loved and Why', a sample here.
Nazi Jew Designed 'Final Solution'
a heretical Jewish Satanic cult, the Sabbatean Frankists, have plotted to exterminate the Jewish people since the 18th century. The hallmark of this cult is that they intermarry and impersonate members of other nations and religions, including Judaism. (Heydrich's background fits this profile. ) The Sabbatean-Frankists are the progenitors of the Illuminati, responsible for Communism, Fascism, Zionism, Socialism, Liberalism, Neo Conservatism and the NWO.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
More from Icke's website:
Is the Saudi Royal Family Jewish?
In the 1960's the "Sawt Al Arab" Broadcasting Station in Cairo, Egypt, and the Yemen Broadcasting Station in Sana'a confirmed the Jewish Ancestry of the Saudi Family.
The Dreyfus Affair Was A Rothschild Psy-Op
The Dreyfus Affair was an elaborate psy-op. The real spy , Ferdinand Esterhazy, was in the pay of Baron Edmund de Rothschild. They deliberately implicated the Jew Dreyfus so that when he was finally vindicated, the conservative anti-Semitic anti-Rothschild party would be humiliated and discredited.
Did Hitler Blame All Jews For The Manipulation of Rothschild Zionist Bankers?
Respected historian Ralph Georg Reuth argues that Hitler may have had a real reason to hate the Jews. Noted for his breath of knowledge on World Wars I and II and its prominent figures... Ralf Georg Reuth recounts that Hitler blamed the Jews for both the collapse of the German economy and the Russian revolution.
Media Lying over Churchill's Crimes
Churchill is our hero because of his leadership in World War 2, but his immense crimes, notably the WW2 Bengali Holocaust, the 1943-1945 Bengal Famine in which Churchill murdered 6-7 million Indians, have been deleted from history by extraordinary Anglo-American and Zionist Holocaust Denial
Rothschild Zionist Nazi Collaboration
While the Zionists, with their total control of the media, succeeded to convince most of us that the Nazis were the bad guys, in reality the Zionist leadership and the Nazis were the best of friends.
Gross Fraud At Nuremberg - An Ugly History
links to an article from antisemitic conspiracist Jeff Rense's website that begins "The Nuremberg trials are a vast, vast subject. That the evidence used against the defendants was very dubious and obtained by even more dubious methods is, however, very clear"
11 Million Germans were Murdered Post WWII
The book "Gruesome Harvest," should be on the mandatory highschool and college reading list for history and sociology. It is one of the few books that are available in English that address the murder of millions of non-combatant German civilians and German prisoners of war from 1944 to 1950 as a matter of deliberate allied policy
Hitlers Freedom from International Debt Slavery
Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved, and Germany was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, with no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries (controlled by international bankers) were still out of work.
Within five years, Germany went from the poorest nation in Europe to the richest. Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the international bankers' denial of foreign credit to Germany, and despite the global boycott by Jewish-owned industries.
Revealed: The Secret Report that Shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU
The basis of this story of how the Nazis never disappeared, just changed jackboots for business suits, and how the European Union fits the Nazi vision of a fascist Europe, was detailed by David Icke in 1995 in his book, And The Truth Shall Set You Free.
Bormann Ran Hitler for the Illuminati
The second most powerful man in Nazi Germany, Martin Bormann, was a "Soviet" (i.e. Illuminati) agent who ensured the destruction of both Germany and European Jewry. Thus, he advanced two of the Illuminati's main goals: integrate Germany into a world government by annihilating its national, cultural and racial pretensions, and establish Israel as the Masonic banker's world capital by threatening European Jews with extermination.
Was Hitler a Secret Agent of The Rothschilds?
It is a matter of history that up until the First World War, the Rothschilds financed both sides of numerous conflicts, reaping rewards from the winners and the losers. Could it be that the Rothschilds did indeed have a hand in the First and Second World War? Could it be that the reason the Rothschilds tried to distance themselves from those wars was because their good name would not have survived had it been associated with the massive slaughter of millions of people.
Fredrik Toben Wins UK Fight Over Extradition to Germany
a link to an article in The Australian explaining "Holocaust denier Fredrik Toben has won his legal battle with the German Government after it ended its attempt to extradite him from Britain. German prosecutors have withdrawn their appeal against a British court's refusal last month to extradite the controversial historian"
Toben is Australia's premier believer in a Soviet-US falsification of Nazi liquidationist massacres all apparently a forgery "an official conspiracy theory" sustained today purely by "the Holocaust Racketeers, the corpse peddlers and the Shoah Business Merchants".
The Myth Of German Culpability
One of the great mysteries of life is that despite the evidence to the contrary millions of otherwise intelligent people still believe that Germany was the all powerful aggressor during the 2nd World War. Nothing better than these myths illustrate the mind-bending power of propaganda. The provable facts suggest that Germany was the victim and not the perpetrator of naked neighboring aggression. The subsequent allied military triumph was followed by the triumph of the propagandists whose pressing need was to depict the victor nations as being the victim.
Robert Edmondson "Testified Against the Jews"
Our Zionist mind controllers have succeeded in eliminating almost all record of Robert Edmondson. Until today, there was no reference to him (or photo) on the Internet. Yet he was thrown into jail in 1936 and again in 1942 for producing hundreds of bulletins alerting his fellow Americans to an International conspiracy financed by the central bankers and consisting largely of Communist Jews. This conspiracy has grown into the New World Order.
Is the Saudi Royal Family Jewish?
In the 1960's the "Sawt Al Arab" Broadcasting Station in Cairo, Egypt, and the Yemen Broadcasting Station in Sana'a confirmed the Jewish Ancestry of the Saudi Family.
The Dreyfus Affair Was A Rothschild Psy-Op
The Dreyfus Affair was an elaborate psy-op. The real spy , Ferdinand Esterhazy, was in the pay of Baron Edmund de Rothschild. They deliberately implicated the Jew Dreyfus so that when he was finally vindicated, the conservative anti-Semitic anti-Rothschild party would be humiliated and discredited.
Did Hitler Blame All Jews For The Manipulation of Rothschild Zionist Bankers?
Respected historian Ralph Georg Reuth argues that Hitler may have had a real reason to hate the Jews. Noted for his breath of knowledge on World Wars I and II and its prominent figures... Ralf Georg Reuth recounts that Hitler blamed the Jews for both the collapse of the German economy and the Russian revolution.
Media Lying over Churchill's Crimes
Churchill is our hero because of his leadership in World War 2, but his immense crimes, notably the WW2 Bengali Holocaust, the 1943-1945 Bengal Famine in which Churchill murdered 6-7 million Indians, have been deleted from history by extraordinary Anglo-American and Zionist Holocaust Denial
Rothschild Zionist Nazi Collaboration
While the Zionists, with their total control of the media, succeeded to convince most of us that the Nazis were the bad guys, in reality the Zionist leadership and the Nazis were the best of friends.
Gross Fraud At Nuremberg - An Ugly History
links to an article from antisemitic conspiracist Jeff Rense's website that begins "The Nuremberg trials are a vast, vast subject. That the evidence used against the defendants was very dubious and obtained by even more dubious methods is, however, very clear"
11 Million Germans were Murdered Post WWII
The book "Gruesome Harvest," should be on the mandatory highschool and college reading list for history and sociology. It is one of the few books that are available in English that address the murder of millions of non-combatant German civilians and German prisoners of war from 1944 to 1950 as a matter of deliberate allied policy
Hitlers Freedom from International Debt Slavery
Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved, and Germany was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, with no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries (controlled by international bankers) were still out of work.
Within five years, Germany went from the poorest nation in Europe to the richest. Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the international bankers' denial of foreign credit to Germany, and despite the global boycott by Jewish-owned industries.
Revealed: The Secret Report that Shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU
The basis of this story of how the Nazis never disappeared, just changed jackboots for business suits, and how the European Union fits the Nazi vision of a fascist Europe, was detailed by David Icke in 1995 in his book, And The Truth Shall Set You Free.
Bormann Ran Hitler for the Illuminati
The second most powerful man in Nazi Germany, Martin Bormann, was a "Soviet" (i.e. Illuminati) agent who ensured the destruction of both Germany and European Jewry. Thus, he advanced two of the Illuminati's main goals: integrate Germany into a world government by annihilating its national, cultural and racial pretensions, and establish Israel as the Masonic banker's world capital by threatening European Jews with extermination.
Was Hitler a Secret Agent of The Rothschilds?
It is a matter of history that up until the First World War, the Rothschilds financed both sides of numerous conflicts, reaping rewards from the winners and the losers. Could it be that the Rothschilds did indeed have a hand in the First and Second World War? Could it be that the reason the Rothschilds tried to distance themselves from those wars was because their good name would not have survived had it been associated with the massive slaughter of millions of people.
Fredrik Toben Wins UK Fight Over Extradition to Germany
a link to an article in The Australian explaining "Holocaust denier Fredrik Toben has won his legal battle with the German Government after it ended its attempt to extradite him from Britain. German prosecutors have withdrawn their appeal against a British court's refusal last month to extradite the controversial historian"
Toben is Australia's premier believer in a Soviet-US falsification of Nazi liquidationist massacres all apparently a forgery "an official conspiracy theory" sustained today purely by "the Holocaust Racketeers, the corpse peddlers and the Shoah Business Merchants".
The Myth Of German Culpability
One of the great mysteries of life is that despite the evidence to the contrary millions of otherwise intelligent people still believe that Germany was the all powerful aggressor during the 2nd World War. Nothing better than these myths illustrate the mind-bending power of propaganda. The provable facts suggest that Germany was the victim and not the perpetrator of naked neighboring aggression. The subsequent allied military triumph was followed by the triumph of the propagandists whose pressing need was to depict the victor nations as being the victim.
Robert Edmondson "Testified Against the Jews"
Our Zionist mind controllers have succeeded in eliminating almost all record of Robert Edmondson. Until today, there was no reference to him (or photo) on the Internet. Yet he was thrown into jail in 1936 and again in 1942 for producing hundreds of bulletins alerting his fellow Americans to an International conspiracy financed by the central bankers and consisting largely of Communist Jews. This conspiracy has grown into the New World Order.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Yet more from Icke's website
The biggest secret of World War Two
Now Rothschild was a "black bag man" which means that any operation before it can go ahead, must be okayed by Home Office if its on the British mainland, and by the Foreign Office if its abroad, now if the Officials do not agree to fund it, they have to go for secret "black bag op funding" so Rothschild by secret funding and being a part, knew details of all and every operation. Litzi Friedman with her security file of over 70 pages, was unbelievably married to top British intelligence officer, Kim Philby, and yet no one suspected anything?'
ie Jews and crypto-Jews (Communists) perverted by conspiracy British war aims in the war which were at the outset defensive over the Empire and offensive against the Soviet Union and hence commendable
Illuminati Murdered At Least Two More Presidents
A curious but very credible Internet document called "The Mardi Gras Secrets" states that Illuminati agents poisoned and killed Presidents William Henry Harrison (1773-1841) and Zachary Taylor (1784-1850). They also poisoned James Buchanan in 1857 but he survived. All three were obstructing Illuminati- House of Rothschild plans for the US Civil War (1860-1865). The document also describes the Illuminati role in the murders of Abraham Lincoln and Senator Huey Long. We know they also killed Presidents Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy and probably Warren Harding and possibly FDR
Was Hitler Just a Pawn?
subtitled (Of course he was) links to an article citing heavily from the 1902-3 Okhrana antisemitic forgery 'Jewish programme to conquer the world' a.k.a. Protocols of the Elders of Zion declaring "Hitler was stage managed by the Illuminati, i.e. Masons organized around the Rothschild's desire for world tyranny to protect their monopoly on credit... In the Protocols, Lionel Rothschild, talks about his world control by virtue of his credit monopoly. ... there is a direct line between Hitler and the Rothschild agenda, through a long line of "cutouts" (agents). Some of these cutouts were "useful idiots" like Erich Ludendorff... Through the "secret masonry" the central bankers created both Communism and Nazism which, thanks to WWII, advanced the destruction of Western (Christian) civilization. The human race is fast becoming the Rothschilds' ant farm."
almost ad nauseam his mid-1990s books are full of Illuminatis controlled Nazis stuff. It wasn't simply the other Generals (in part foreign-tied like Bormann etc.) that controlled and corrupted Hitler to allow excesses, but the Illuminati on another plane of existence.
The biggest secret of World War Two
Now Rothschild was a "black bag man" which means that any operation before it can go ahead, must be okayed by Home Office if its on the British mainland, and by the Foreign Office if its abroad, now if the Officials do not agree to fund it, they have to go for secret "black bag op funding" so Rothschild by secret funding and being a part, knew details of all and every operation. Litzi Friedman with her security file of over 70 pages, was unbelievably married to top British intelligence officer, Kim Philby, and yet no one suspected anything?'
ie Jews and crypto-Jews (Communists) perverted by conspiracy British war aims in the war which were at the outset defensive over the Empire and offensive against the Soviet Union and hence commendable
Illuminati Murdered At Least Two More Presidents
A curious but very credible Internet document called "The Mardi Gras Secrets" states that Illuminati agents poisoned and killed Presidents William Henry Harrison (1773-1841) and Zachary Taylor (1784-1850). They also poisoned James Buchanan in 1857 but he survived. All three were obstructing Illuminati- House of Rothschild plans for the US Civil War (1860-1865). The document also describes the Illuminati role in the murders of Abraham Lincoln and Senator Huey Long. We know they also killed Presidents Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy and probably Warren Harding and possibly FDR
Was Hitler Just a Pawn?
subtitled (Of course he was) links to an article citing heavily from the 1902-3 Okhrana antisemitic forgery 'Jewish programme to conquer the world' a.k.a. Protocols of the Elders of Zion declaring "Hitler was stage managed by the Illuminati, i.e. Masons organized around the Rothschild's desire for world tyranny to protect their monopoly on credit... In the Protocols, Lionel Rothschild, talks about his world control by virtue of his credit monopoly. ... there is a direct line between Hitler and the Rothschild agenda, through a long line of "cutouts" (agents). Some of these cutouts were "useful idiots" like Erich Ludendorff... Through the "secret masonry" the central bankers created both Communism and Nazism which, thanks to WWII, advanced the destruction of Western (Christian) civilization. The human race is fast becoming the Rothschilds' ant farm."
almost ad nauseam his mid-1990s books are full of Illuminatis controlled Nazis stuff. It wasn't simply the other Generals (in part foreign-tied like Bormann etc.) that controlled and corrupted Hitler to allow excesses, but the Illuminati on another plane of existence.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yep sihhi see also the "khazar theory" another get out of anti-semitism free card coz they're not real jews, just people impersonating them. Pathetic.
Norman Finkelstein never endorsed such filth btw, I've read his book and it is about how the Israeli state misused the memory of the holocaust for internal consumption/propaganda and how a lot of holocaust survivors have never been compensated and are living in poverty. It's a fantastic book.
Norman Finkelstein never endorsed such filth btw, I've read his book and it is about how the Israeli state misused the memory of the holocaust for internal consumption/propaganda and how a lot of holocaust survivors have never been compensated and are living in poverty. It's a fantastic book.
binka
!!!!!!!!!
thats one of my favourites. there was no holocaust of course but if there was it was the jews that did it!
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Now of course Icke is just one person. But where does that leave his supporters, those that are politically inclined are more antisemitic in their pronouncements than he is. His forum is pretty clear on the Holocaust denial aspect: "Did 6 million Jews die in the camps?
Yes 16.47%
No 83.53%"
The examples are there if you scan around. Someone asks in a thread about the Holocaust Education Trust making a film on the massacres with some England football players last month:
"i have noticed for some time there has been a lot of reference to Hitler and the whole genicide war thing going on .... i still dont know what it means but when they keep bringing things up it generally means they are trying to show us how to behave in certain circumstances"
To which the response is "They might be preparing for backlash against Jews when shit hits the fan. That's not to say Jews are causing all the problems, but rather that those causing all the problems (reincarnated Demons) are hiding behind Jews and wish to continue doing so if things don't go according to plan."
The controllers of the human race are hiding behind Jews. It's not the fault of the Jews, but they are they are the means by which all problems are effected. It's insidious and Jazzz facilitates it all the time.
This month's thread on the Holocaust is only 4 pages long but ends on an 'awesome' quote that "the Holocaust oppresses the entire non-Jewish world"
There's a general feeling that parts of mankind are simply "natural slaves" if you look at the threads about Icke's marathon Wembley talk, the posters are enfuriated at how people are looking at their mobile phones, eating chemical-based junk-food (and noisily and greedily), not making way for people to move in and out of seats quickly enough: being stupid and common, even the semi-enlightened ones.
The bottom line: fact-free assertions on 9/11 facilitate Holocaust conspiracism. If 9/11 is a conspiracy and WTC7 was demolished without any of its residents knowing that it was rigged, then exaggerating the extent of the Holocaust becomes a cake-walk by comparison. The US (mixed mongrels) and the Soviets (communist multiculturalists) the superpower victors (also pro-Zionist vote to found Israel in 1947 etc etc), in order to weaken the strong mono-cultural Europe nation-state, build the case that militant nationalism ends in mass murder of its captive races. USA and USSR do this by exaggeration and deception because victors write history and everyone else is too starving to challenge them effectively. Holocaust conspiracism declares itself not racist (certainly not pro-Nazi Germany) or anti-racist (not pro-Soviet Union either), simply pro-truth, pro-human.
Look at the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust and it France chapter, it has a book list in addition to Holocaust nonsense also featuring one-time leftist journalist Webster Tarpley's 9/11 Synthetic Terrorism Made in USA and theology professor David Ray Griffin's The New Pearl Harbor Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11. These are the canon of well-written 9-11 conspiracism.It's there to bring in 9-11 conspiracists to antisemitic (hard-right) nationalism and to encourage antisemitic (hard-right) nationalists to plough the furrow of modern conspiracism, to suggest a slightly wider, slightly longer conspiracy - one since the birth in Europe of the post-absolutist state and the civic and economic emancipation of Jewish people. This conspiracy based around Jewish and Zionist power leads in perfectly with chauvinist or anti-immigration based social struggle.
The idea of an Armenian conspiracy published by Turkish apologists is brought to cajole the residual anti-Armenian chauvinists in France, as are dozens of leftist works to loop in those opposed to the IMF, against the persecution of Palestinians etc, as are more conventional domination by conspiratorial elites in banking, conspiratorial anti-Christianity groups, conspiratorial Anglo-American oath-taking secret societies for those who believe identity is being eroded in the gunge of multiculturalism.
The point is these other conspiracies can be easily made to work around the central conspiracy of 'Jewish supremacy via culture' dominating all bad aspects of life - war, poverty, diseases, AIDS, child abuse, media dumbing-down, sexual subjugation all have Jewish/Rothschild conspiracy based explanations. These are all real things - real problems and issues and meaningful social analysis is drawn into chauvinist or nationalist anti-activism.
Yes 16.47%
No 83.53%"
The examples are there if you scan around. Someone asks in a thread about the Holocaust Education Trust making a film on the massacres with some England football players last month:
"i have noticed for some time there has been a lot of reference to Hitler and the whole genicide war thing going on .... i still dont know what it means but when they keep bringing things up it generally means they are trying to show us how to behave in certain circumstances"
To which the response is "They might be preparing for backlash against Jews when shit hits the fan. That's not to say Jews are causing all the problems, but rather that those causing all the problems (reincarnated Demons) are hiding behind Jews and wish to continue doing so if things don't go according to plan."
The controllers of the human race are hiding behind Jews. It's not the fault of the Jews, but they are they are the means by which all problems are effected. It's insidious and Jazzz facilitates it all the time.
This month's thread on the Holocaust is only 4 pages long but ends on an 'awesome' quote that "the Holocaust oppresses the entire non-Jewish world"
There's a general feeling that parts of mankind are simply "natural slaves" if you look at the threads about Icke's marathon Wembley talk, the posters are enfuriated at how people are looking at their mobile phones, eating chemical-based junk-food (and noisily and greedily), not making way for people to move in and out of seats quickly enough: being stupid and common, even the semi-enlightened ones.
The bottom line: fact-free assertions on 9/11 facilitate Holocaust conspiracism. If 9/11 is a conspiracy and WTC7 was demolished without any of its residents knowing that it was rigged, then exaggerating the extent of the Holocaust becomes a cake-walk by comparison. The US (mixed mongrels) and the Soviets (communist multiculturalists) the superpower victors (also pro-Zionist vote to found Israel in 1947 etc etc), in order to weaken the strong mono-cultural Europe nation-state, build the case that militant nationalism ends in mass murder of its captive races. USA and USSR do this by exaggeration and deception because victors write history and everyone else is too starving to challenge them effectively. Holocaust conspiracism declares itself not racist (certainly not pro-Nazi Germany) or anti-racist (not pro-Soviet Union either), simply pro-truth, pro-human.
Look at the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust and it France chapter, it has a book list in addition to Holocaust nonsense also featuring one-time leftist journalist Webster Tarpley's 9/11 Synthetic Terrorism Made in USA and theology professor David Ray Griffin's The New Pearl Harbor Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11. These are the canon of well-written 9-11 conspiracism.It's there to bring in 9-11 conspiracists to antisemitic (hard-right) nationalism and to encourage antisemitic (hard-right) nationalists to plough the furrow of modern conspiracism, to suggest a slightly wider, slightly longer conspiracy - one since the birth in Europe of the post-absolutist state and the civic and economic emancipation of Jewish people. This conspiracy based around Jewish and Zionist power leads in perfectly with chauvinist or anti-immigration based social struggle.
The idea of an Armenian conspiracy published by Turkish apologists is brought to cajole the residual anti-Armenian chauvinists in France, as are dozens of leftist works to loop in those opposed to the IMF, against the persecution of Palestinians etc, as are more conventional domination by conspiratorial elites in banking, conspiratorial anti-Christianity groups, conspiratorial Anglo-American oath-taking secret societies for those who believe identity is being eroded in the gunge of multiculturalism.
The point is these other conspiracies can be easily made to work around the central conspiracy of 'Jewish supremacy via culture' dominating all bad aspects of life - war, poverty, diseases, AIDS, child abuse, media dumbing-down, sexual subjugation all have Jewish/Rothschild conspiracy based explanations. These are all real things - real problems and issues and meaningful social analysis is drawn into chauvinist or nationalist anti-activism.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Icke has that covered as well:
The Khazar Empire, Illuminati and The New World Order
More on the Khazars from Icke's pen
Note how Arthur Koestler becomes a "brave Jewish writer", otherwise he'd be a dirty Jewish vermin who raped Jill Foot, assistant to Hungarian Jew Bela Kun's domination over Budapest, subvertor of German pseudo-democracy in the KPD in the Weimar Era and spearhead of Zionism by service on a Jewish kibbutz in colonial Palestine, because he expounded the Hazal theory.
So in a bizarre sort of way the interbreeding Jews the Chinesified, Turkified Jews are the bad Jews while the "non-Zionist" (ie Jews who don't point out that holocaust deniers are antisemitic) Jews are the good, pure Jews.
It's exactly the point Icke makes in Children of the Matrix: How an Interdimensional Race has Controlled the World for Thousands of Years-and Still Does. Something possesses these bad Jews to create a series of 'false religions' beginning with conventional Torah Judaism and Zoroastrianism (presumably all the way through to Bahaism) that means humankind completely loses sight of the fact that it once had super-energy powers itself and that it lives on an energy plance. They are good at creating and synthesising religions because they shift shape and form easily by marrying and re-marrying with different tribes effectively.
Icke's claim is that they have been blood-line penetrated by extra-terrestrials at some point before 3000BC to do so. They have been mentally programmed to dominate and control. Hence they ingratiate themselves with or even become European Kings and Queens, then begin a course of worldwide settlement and colonisation dominating the new colonies aswell. Basically, everyone with any sort of financial or military power that deals with foreign countries has bad Jewish "blood genealogy" through them. So that by the mid-nineteenth century they control the world sort of or not depending on how you read it, because they also create revolutionary ideas, democracy, socialism at the same time aswell as a controlled mirror or counterbalance to their overweaning absolutist power. All politics is a meaningless charade - a chasm of two balancing false sides. Most of the story moves by metaphor and innuendo, and is thus believable.
> Of course Finkelstein didn't, but it fits perfectly with the approach to magnify crimes committed by Jewish people and minimise those of others.
oh ffs.
Reinvestigate 9/11 has a very clear "no holocaust denial" policy and has done for years. I have gone to some trouble to ringfence my particular circle from NK whose presence has done the movement quite some damage. I can't account for the video you have found, but I am nowhere in it.
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