Transgender hate crimes recorded by police go up 81%
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InArduisFouette
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given Brianna's name, her protected Characteristic of Gender Reassignment status and also her deadname have been splashed across the media ...
the Now convicted Criminals who murdered Brianna have had their identities protected all the way through the proceedings , even after their guilt was established and it;s not as if these young people are another Thompson and Venables, they are young adults ...
InArduisFouette
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ever heard of the term 'wanker's remorse' ?
it's also becoming clear that the young man involved was transphobic
ElizabethofYork
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Yes, but what is the purpose of naming them? How does this help anyone? Surely it simply puts their innocent families in danger.
Fozzie Bear
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This is what the judge said about naming them (from BBC):
"The shock generated by Brianna's murder and the circumstances of it has spread well beyond the local community, across the nation and indeed internationally," she said at the time.
Justice Yip accepted naming the two teenagers would "cause distress to their families", but said the purpose of the anonymity order was not to protect family members of those convicted.
'Exceptional case' justified naming of teenage killers, judge said at end of trial
Just to remind you that back in December, at the end of the trial, Mrs Justice Yip said she would lift the anonymity order that prevented the media from naming the killers due to "a strong public interest in the full and unrestricted reporting of what is plainly an exceptional case"."The shock generated by Brianna's murder and the circumstances of it has spread well beyond the local community, across the nation and indeed internationally," she said at the time.
Justice Yip accepted naming the two teenagers would "cause distress to their families", but said the purpose of the anonymity order was not to protect family members of those convicted.
Fozzie Bear
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I guess the last bit is key, in that families are not usually protected from public knowledge of crimes committed by family members. But minors are often protected during trials?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Fuck them.
Fuck them in to the fucking ground. She especially seems to be a total psychopath who has no business being in society ever again.
RIP Brianna.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Fuck the innocent families? Bit harsh.
InArduisFouette
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indeed i'm watching the setencing now
looks like the starting point is 20 years ( 30 year starting point if they had been adults) imprisonment ...
sounding like Scarlett is going to have to do a lot to convince the Parole board to release her , while Eddie is going to be an interesting scenario for sentencing
InArduisFouette
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have you read or listened to any of the setencing ?
I don't care particularly that they've been named one way or the other but people under 18 aren't 'young adults'. They're still children.
InArduisFouette
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funny how the law continues ot treat those aged 15 - 21 as a special category in many ways
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Brianna's?
They were still in school when they committed the crime. Young adults go to school? Anyway I thought one became an adult at 18.
InArduisFouette
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thanks for confirming you appease transphobic murders
I've done nothing of the sort you bonkers twat.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you mean justify but you're still wrong
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Yes. I've followed the trial. Absolutely harrowing. But the murderers were/are kids, so should not be identified. And I still don't see what's being gained by naming them. The only thing that will happen is that their families will be hounded by the media and by assorted twats.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Should they remain anonymous once they reach 18?
Or should all killers remain anonymous in case their families get hounded?
InArduisFouette
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in that case should the news ever name any convicted Criminal ?
should we stop publishing the findings of professional regulatory proceedings as well?
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
I'm not sure what the law is, but yes, they would probably be named once they reach 18. And that's okay. By the time they reach 18, the immediate anger would have died down.
No, not all killers remain anonymous, but it's fairly usual not to name children who commit murders, is it?
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Children are usually kept anonymous in UK criminal proceedings, which seems appropriate.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
No, it's fairly normal to name them upon conviction. They will be subject to an automatic life sentence (called Detention at His Majesty's Pleasure for under 18's), so they will be very much in to adulthood by the time they get out.
Not entirely sure where you get this idea that their families will be targeted for retribution if named whereas had they done what they did when they were 18 their families would have been left alone.
InArduisFouette
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which they were throughout the process until it was clear they were entirely criminally culpabler transphobic saidsts as well as murderers
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
It was something that Brianna's mother said. She expressed concern about the families.
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