The recording is really difficult to watch.
I'd be astounded if any SIO didn't flag this as a hate crime, would be a massive and career defining call not to
A boy and girl, both aged 15, have been arrested on suspicion of murder after the fatal stabbing of 16-year-old Brianna Ghey in a park in Warrington, Cheshire police have said.
Ghey was a transgender girl, but a police spokesperson said “there is nothing to suggest that this has any relevance at all to the murder”.
The Guardian's sub-heading is 'Police say no evidence so far that death of 16-year-old trans girl in Warrington park was hate related'. And they lead with:
Just fuck all of this.
not sure what you mean Joe Chi Min ?And I’d say this defines anything you say on here ever again, you and the rest of the pseudo-intellectual brigade.
Miss-Shelf you gonna rescind your like mate?
The recording is really difficult to watch.
I don't think that's Brianna; it's the daughter of Mr Harry. She went to the same school and was allegedly bullied*; he seems keen to link his daughter's situation to Brianna's murder, on social media.Anyone who doesn't want to watch what's in Joe's first link, it's video of (I guess?) her being assaulted by another girl (or girls, I'm not going to rewatch it for specifics), egged on by a guy, presumably same school. Think T word is used, little difficult to tell.
Disingenuous of you to pretend you’ve not seen this thread
This isn't that kind of thread. Happy to debate with you elsewhere on the boards but show a little respect.And I’d say this defines anything you say on here ever again, you and the rest of the pseudo-intellectual brigade.
Miss-Shelf you gonna rescind your like mate?
I don't think that's Brianna; it's the daughter of Mr Harry. She went to the same school and was allegedly bullied*; he seems keen to link his daughter's situation to Brianna's murder, on social media.
*Which seems to be the subject of a long running and complex web of complaints and proceedings against the school, the council, and the police.
Shit, I’m so sorry. Thoughts with all the family and friends.This is tough. I know the father. Fuckign hell.
Because A380 more or less accused them of jumping in on it "for their own agenda" - because they mentioned dead naming- which is a load of bollocks.Joe Chi Min why are you being so aggressive?
Sorry but A380 is a decent bloke.Yeah it makes more sense now, I guess I was a little hasty to post without sorting it into a linear story.
It’s difficult when you’ve got tossers like A380 trying to use what you’ve posted - in the best of faith - to derail the thread.
Yeah sorry.If people could keep their beef with Joe to other more suitable threads and have some decorum on this one that would be appreciated.
being stabbed to death's pretty cruel yehIs there no way she can get buried with the correct identity? Seems so cruel otherwise
They haven't said that, they've said there's no evidence so far which suggests that it is a hate crime.How can they so quickly assert it wasn’t a hate crime? What was it then. A robbery gone wrong?
Not really, they can declare anything a hate crime.They haven't said that, they've said there's no evidence so far which suggests that it is a hate crime.
I would imagine that to legally demonstrate that it is a hate crime it would be necessary to connect the two suspects to some of the previous transphobic abuse that Brianna was subjected to, but as far as I can see there is so far no evidence of any such thing.
I believe it may be a reference to the Tories going back on the self ID legislation proposed for England under Theresa May. I don’t know what basis Karl has for making the apparent assumption that Brianna had not changed her birth certificate, though.What do you mean by that? correct identity?
Very much so.Sorry but A380 is a decent bloke.
You've got him wrong.