Tory MP David Amess Stabbed to Death 15/10/21

[maomao]

Not offering him out for a punch-up then?

You've mentioned this so many times it feels like you're offering me out. It's also not quite what happened. I told someone (neither of you) if they wanted a fight they'd have to drive to my house. Which, while it was a very silly thing to say, ended the argument.

 

[maomao]

Not really. She died of old age. It's somewhat different to getting stabbed to death. But do feel free to try to drag others down to your level.

So if Thatch had been shot in the mid-80s you'd have put flowers on her grave?

 

[Saul Goodman]

So if Thatch had been shot in the mid-80s you'd have put flowers on her grave?

Why would I? I didn't put flowers on my own grandmother's grave when she died in the mid 80s, and she was a wonderful person.

I might hate Tories but I'd never calebrate their murder. Celebrating someone's murder is way beyond that wavy line you seem to like mentioning.

Anyway, I'm going back to work. Hope you have a good day.

 

[maomao]

Celebrating someone's murder is way beyond that wavy line you seem to like mentioning.

'Wavy' line is me accusing you of inconsistency over the point where you start clutching your pearls.

 

[Johnny Doe]

yeh i posted a picture of him meeting the emir on the last page, and an emir outranks an ambassador

There must be a fuckton of Ferrero Roche at The Emir's parties then!

 

[Dandred]

Well that last few pages really shows the true colours of U75 politikal posters...

 

[MrSki]

Well that last few pages really shows the true colours of U75 politikal posters...

 

[Dom Traynor]

Well that last few pages really shows the true colours of U75 politikal posters...

First thread to ever do that

 

[flypanam]

I remember postmen cheering at the pub i had a summer job in, in Golders Green when Ian Gow hit the roof. Seems like there is a fine tradition of celebrating when the masters die.

Edited for clarity

 

[Dom Traynor]

Phone playing up.

Ta.

 

[flypanam]

Ta.

Got it to work eventually…

 

[Dom Traynor]

Got it to work eventually…

**

 

[petee]

I remember post men cheering at the pub in Golders Green when Ian Gow hit the roof. Seems like their is a fine tradition of celebrating when the masters die.

"hit the roof"

 

[extra dry]

Any updates on motive and any more arrests?

 

[BristolEcho]

Any updates on motive and any more arrests?

He was a tory apparently.

 

[strung out]

Have to agree with Bish and OU here, the Top Gear tag team are one of the worst things about these boards and their behaviour has been shoddy yet again on this thread. Not sure they'll ever learn or change, but their pearl clutching on this thread is pretty special.

 

[MrCurry]

Any updates on motive

According to the BBC News article I just read it’s been declared a terrorist incident* due to “potential links to extremist material”. Sounds like a story which could change when more is discovered, since “potential” sounds like they might be reaching a bit.

*the Amess stabbing, not shenanigans on this thread

 

[moochedit]

Who was it earlier that said Spanner would turn up at 1am?

Me. He doesn't post every day but it's always around that time when he shows up.

 

[deeyo]

people have killed each other since forever, & probably always will. most often for stupid reasons.
i'm sure we could build a better society if we tried, where it happened less often & where we took care of each other. where people didn't have to be afraid of walking home alone, or afraid of the people they're alone with in their homes. where people didn't have to be alone at all, unless they wanted to.

as Sue wrote in the s.e. thread -

Unfortunately, you don't need to go all the way to Kenya to look for women being murdered by men.

81 women have been murdered by men in the UK since Sarah Everard was killed.

That's right, 81. In 28 weeks.

The 81 women killed in 28 weeks

Since Sarah Everard’s brutal murder, only one thing has changed – the death toll

www.theguardian.com

since 2014, over 21000 people has drowned trying to cross the mediterranean, over 1400 this year.

some of those people were most certainly horrible persons. most probably wasn't. all of those deaths could've been & should've been avoided.

we live in a fucked up world, where horrible things happen all the time & still we have to get up and go to work in the morning (not today, though, i'm free, but the dishwashers broken & i couldn't be bothered yesterday)
we don't know the motive behind this murder yet, but nobody's celebrating that a man got stabbed to death in front of innocent bystanders.
joking about it is a way of coping.

Social Psychologists: It Takes 36 Days After a Tragedy Before Jokes About It Become Funny

Too soon? Researchers have an answer for you.

newrepublic.com

 

[TopCat]

morning all

 

[platinumsage]

I guess if it hadn't been for Tory austerity and we had in the UK a more just and equitable society, like for example that of Norway, then this guy would have murdered several strangers with a bow and arrow instead of an MP with a knife.

 

[Numbers]

Lol at Top Gear tag team strung out

 

[SpookyFrank]

I guess if it hadn't been for Tory austerity and we had in the UK a more just and equitable society, like for example that of Norway, then this guy would have murdered several strangers with a bow and arrow instead of an MP with a knife.

The homicide rate in the UK in 2020 was 11.7 per million people.

In Norway it was 13. In the entire country.

 

[planetgeli]

This is going well.

You posted that at about 10pm.

You won't believe what happened next!

 

[Buddy Bradley]

According to the BBC News article I just read it’s been declared a terrorist incident* due to “potential links to extremist material”.

Been upgraded to "Islamist extremism" now.

 

[brogdale]

Certainly moved the news agenda on from the needless covid death-toll and the 'crisis, what crisis' holiday.
Almost convenient for Johnson.

 

[comrade spurski]

I have never understood this bollocks about not speaking ill of the dead.

No one on here was his friend so tbh I do not get the outrage because one person said "good".

I personally do not think it is good.

I fear for me and my family cos racist cunts will use it as an excuse to do what they love to do.

I fear that we will get more racism in the media and more draconian laws.

I do not actually think that it is good that he is dead.

But I ain't cut up about it. He weren't my mate. I didn't admire him...his political views were far away from mine.
But tbh if I had been asked to write a list of MPs I knew he wouldn't have made the list before yesterday.

I do not remember him condemning poverty, austerity, cuts to UC and the fact that his government had to be shamed into keeping free school meals by a footballer. I don't remember him condemning Patel or Johnson for implying that footballers taking the knee was provoking racism and division. I don't remember him criticising Patel for abusing human rights lawyers for doing their jobs.
Nor do I remember him criticising his party members formalising those who disagreed with brexit as "traitors".
I do not remember him demanding Cummings be sacked or condemn the cluster fuck regarding covid last Autumn and winter.
I could go on and on but think I've made my point.

We seem to live in a world where we have to weep for people we don't know or even like because otherwise you're a heartless cunt.

If some one on here thinks its "good" he was stabbed (it was written before it was known he had died) I don't get the outrage. I get that people will disagree but not the outrage.

Maybe this is my failing but in truth I think that people seriously lose the plot when this stuff happens.

 

[killer b]

Certainly moved the news agenda on from the needless covid death-toll and the 'crisis, what crisis' holiday.
Almost convenient for Johnson.

This is quite silly.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Certainly moved the news agenda on from the needless covid death-toll and the 'crisis, what crisis' holiday.
Almost convenient for Johnson.

But Johnson shrugs off this kind of stuff on an almost daily basis. I doubt he'd bother to orchestrate a murder to cover it up. If nothing else, it looks too much like hard work.

 

[Yossarian]

I guess if it hadn't been for Tory austerity and we had in the UK a more just and equitable society, like for example that of Norway, then this guy would have murdered several strangers with a bow and arrow instead of an MP with a knife.

If a Norwegian MP was murdered, would people be speculating that it might be connected to their decades of service in governments that viciously cut benefits?