Tory MP David Amess Stabbed to Death 15/10/21

[SpookyFrank]

Foreign national, so 'terror' is back on the table.

 

[Yossarian]

Attacker was reportedly a Somalian man, I guess Twitter etc. will be Gammonageddon for a while.

 

[Ax^]

if the tory are not up against the wall


the machines will lead the revolution

 

[Pickman's model]

Not sure that this will be looked back on as a key building block when the great day comes tbh

Maybe not. But another brick in the wall

 

[two sheds]

I agree with the sentiment, like I agree evolution is real, nice to have facts to back up a point though, otherwise you can say any old shit.

why do you agree though?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yeh since he entered parliament the Tories have been in government for 25 of the 38 years

But we can't hold him personally responsible for policies he personally voted for in parliament can we? Let's be reasonable here.

 

[The39thStep]

Maybe not. But another brick in the wall

Please no . The phrase reminds me of appalling Pink Floyd tracks on repeat .

 

[Dandred]

You missed the bit where they've been running the country for a decade then.

No, I didn't. They have fucked up the place all too obviously. However, the claim that the society was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues." Needs some evidence that is was in fact designed and not just total incompetence and idiocy on the part of the Tories.

 

[not-bono-ever]

“Something in an Adam Curtis voice”

 

[killer b]

I post this tweet without comment

I'm not sure the views of truthfinder2306 need to be broadcast beyond his 23 followers on twitter tbh

 

[Pickman's model]

But we can't hold him personally responsible for policies he personally voted for in parliament can we? Let's be reasonable here.

 

[tim]

Ah sorry.
I spelled Amess incorrectly.
It was a mistake.

We all go amiss sometimes.

 

[Dandred]

why do you agree though?

I agree with the sentiment, like I agree evolution is real, nice to have facts to back up a point though, otherwise you can say any old shit.

 

[TopCat]

If it was Tebbit I would be hurrying down Lidl for champagne. But this Tory is no Tebbit.
I’m a bit meh.

 

[Pickman's model]

No, I didn't. They have fucked up the place all too obviously. However, the claim that the society was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues." Needs some evidence that is was in fact designed and not just total incompetence and idiocy on the part of the Tories.

Do you think the way they have gutted communities and public services happens by chance?

 

[bimble]

I went to see my local mp at her 'surgery'(?) one time, when i lived in brixton, and tbh was a bit surprised & impressed at how totally casual it all was, you just walk in wait in a plastic chair and then talk in a small room.
I thought that was a good thing, would not have been the same with a police there or a metal screen or something between us, or even with a security search . So I think this is crap news, for that reason. Also think its crap that people are going 'o he was stabbed because he was a tory' with absolutely no evidence for that at all.

 

[Pickman's model]

If it was Tebbit I would be hurrying down Lidl for champagne. But this Tory is no Tebbit.
I’m a bit meh.

Maybe just some cheap asti spumante then or at most Sainsbury's taste the difference prosecco

 

[two sheds]

I agree with the sentiment, like I agree evolution is real, nice to have facts to back up a point though, otherwise you can say any old shit.

I agree - why do you agree with the sentiment though - it's nice to have facts to back up a point ....

nm

 

[YouSir]

No, I didn't. They have fucked up the place all too obviously. However, the claim that the society was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues." Needs some evidence that is was in fact designed and not just total incompetence and idiocy on the part of the Tories.

It never harms their interests and always profits them and their mates. Would be a lucky type of incompetence.

 

[Orang Utan]

I agree with the sentiment, like I agree evolution is real, nice to have facts to back up a point though, otherwise you can say any old shit.

you just need to have paid attention to the news in the past ten years to be aware of the destruction they have wreaked on the poor and vulnerable

 

[Dandred]

Do you think the way they have gutted communities and public services happens by chance?

I'm asking for an example of how this incident was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

That's all.

 

[Dandred]

you just need to have paid attention to the news in the past ten years to be aware of the destruction they have wreaked on the poor and vulnerable

That's isn't what I'm asking for though is it, as you know.

 

[chilango]

I could, but that doesn't really answer what I asked.

If you can't provide any examples of policies to back up your claim that okay too.

There's 40 years of policies to pick from.

Try the care in the community stuff, or benefit cuts or various military interventions in the middle East, or the Brexit campaign or the MP's expenses scandal, or the Covid response, or anti-trade union legislation or the media demonisation if the left or the closure of primary industry or the gig economy or ...

...you get my drift.

40 years of continuous Neoliberalism has created the society we live in.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm asking for an example of how this incident was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

That's all.

Your quote is missing quite a lot of the claim that was actually made.

FWIW recently published research puts the figure for excess deaths due to tory austerity at 57,200 for the years 2010-2015 alone.

 

[Ax^]

I'm asking for an example of how this incident was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

That's all.

think you might of missed a post about what him and his colleagues implemented somewhere

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm asking for an example of how this incident was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

That's all.

have you not heard of Universal Credit, punitive sanctions on benefit claimants, denying disable people enough money to live on, deliberately trying to drown migrants? I could go on...

 

[Orang Utan]

That's isn't what I'm asking for though is it, as you know.

i don't know, what are you asking for?

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm asking for an example of how this incident was "designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

That's all.

There are these things called 'laws' which mps vote on before they take effect. It's fair to say someone elected first in 1983 will have voted on more of these 'laws' than most MPs, from the public order act and numerous finance acts, the local government finance acts 1988 and 1992, the criminal justice act 1994, the terrorism act 2000, the various health acts...

 

[Pickman's model]

have you not heard of Universal Credit, punitive sanctions on benefit claimants, denying disable people enough money to live on, deliberately trying to drown migrants? I could go on...

And no doubt you will

 

[agricola]

I'm not sure the views of truthfinder2306 need to be broadcast beyond his 23 followers on twitter tbh

truthfinder2306 - 23 followers, post #266 and on page 9 though (which appears as a 6 when viewed from low earth orbit)