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Tory Leadership contest 2022



Is she one of the ones who's said welfare claimants are mollycoddled and can get by with less?

Unintentionally claimed for Amazon Prime on expenses. Stunningly competent just who we need for Prime Minister :thumbs:
Lizz Truss definitely like Star Trek Picard.
 
Im still mystified why the tory right - and murdoch and the daily mail - are backing truss over mourdant. Mourdant was an arch brexiteer and her policies are hardly "wet". She's wooden and charmless but next to truss she come across like a political titan. Truss is lobotomized version of johnson doing a thatcher cos play - she will be a massive embarrassment in a general election campaign.
Dont get it - is it all down to mourdnat being not quite gammon enough on the burning issue of pronouns?
And if not mourdant - why dont they back bad enoch? Shes far more spawn of thathcer - if that is what they are looking for...

Its obvious that sunack is the least shit they can do in terms of ability and likelihood of winning an election - what has he done to upset the mail and murdoch so much? Knifing johnson? It was way past the time that had to happen. The mail is always going to go for the batshit option -but I thought that most tories were into power and keeping hold of it - and that the likes of murdoch want to latch onto the people who can wield that power.

In other news - it seems liz truss was involved in twyford down the anti CJB campaign back in 1994 - so they'll be a few urbanites like myself who may have been chanting and marching (although possibly not hoying rocks at the cops in hyde park) alongside her. i feel dirty. That's truss holding the banner

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Bit suspicious this. Ellwood supports Mordaunt.

Also one of the most vocal of Johnson's critics - Ellwood was in Moldova for the Defence Select committee, he says that travel disruption (which should be easy to prove or disprove) meant he couldn't get back in time.

Standard petulance from Johnson: one wonders if, given that Ellwood is well liked on the Tory benches, and that Truss is obviously the continuity Johnson candidate, that there will be a backlash against Truss...
 
Im still mystified why the tory right - and murdoch and the daily mail - are backing truss over mourdant. Mourdant was an arch brexiteer and her policies are hardly "wet". She's wooden and charmless but next to truss she come across like a political titan. Truss is lobotomized version of johnson doing a thatcher cos play - she will be a massive embarrassment in a general election campaign.
Dont get it - is it all down to mourdnat being not quite gammon enough on the burning issue of pronouns?
And if not mourdant - why dont they back bad enoch? Shes far more spawn of thathcer - if that is what they are looking for...

Its obvious that sunack is the least shit they can do in terms of ability and likelihood of winning an election - what has he done to upset the mail and murdoch so much? Knifing johnson? It was way past the time that had to happen. The mail is always going to go for the batshit option -but I thought that most tories were into power and keeping hold of it - and that the likes of murdoch want to latch onto the people who can wield that power.

In other news - it seems liz truss was involved in twyford down the anti CJB campaign back in 1994 - so they'll be a few urbanites like myself who may have been chanting and marching (although possibly not hoying rocks at the cops in hyde park) alongside her. i feel dirty. That's truss holding the banner

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Bad Enoch :D
 
I think all right thinking people should be doing everything they can to support the Liz Truss leadership campaign.
Despite stiff competition, she is clearly the best candidate to lead the tories to defeat at the next election.
 
I think all right thinking people should be doing everything they can to support the Liz Truss leadership campaign.
Despite stiff competition, she is clearly the best candidate to lead the tories to defeat at the next election.

Dichotomy: Truss is undoubtedly the worst performing Tory leader in any election. Her being Tory leader almost guarantees - bar Starmer being caught balls deep in a 5yo - a Labour election victory.

However, the downside of that is that she'd have two years and a healthy majority, and anyone who doubts what damage she could do in two years with a healthy majority, need only look at Johnson...
 
And probably still win. I'd imagine it's at least partly about how much leverage certain groups think they have over the different candidates.
really not sure about the "probably win" - the tories havent looked more beatable since 1997.
 
Dichotomy: Truss is undoubtedly the worst performing Tory leader in any election. Her being Tory leader almost guarantees - bar Starmer being caught balls deep in a 5yo - a Labour election victory.

However, the downside of that is that she'd have two years and a healthy majority, and anyone who doubts what damage she could do in two years with a healthy majority, need only look at Johnson...
think she would do the least damage out of the remaining four - due to her ineptness, her lack of authority and the fact that half the pcp will be gunning for her.
 
Im still mystified why the tory right - and murdoch and the daily mail - are backing truss over mourdant. Mourdant was an arch brexiteer and her policies are hardly "wet". She's wooden and charmless but next to truss she come across like a political titan. Truss is lobotomized version of johnson doing a thatcher cos play - she will be a massive embarrassment in a general election campaign.
Dont get it - is it all down to mourdnat being not quite gammon enough on the burning issue of pronouns?
And if not mourdant - why dont they back bad enoch? Shes far more spawn of thathcer - if that is what they are looking for...

Its obvious that sunack is the least shit they can do in terms of ability and likelihood of winning an election - what has he done to upset the mail and murdoch so much? Knifing johnson? It was way past the time that had to happen. The mail is always going to go for the batshit option -but I thought that most tories were into power and keeping hold of it - and that the likes of murdoch want to latch onto the people who can wield that power.

In other news - it seems liz truss was involved in twyford down the anti CJB campaign back in 1994 - so they'll be a few urbanites like myself who may have been chanting and marching (although possibly not hoying rocks at the cops in hyde park) alongside her. i feel dirty. That's truss holding the banner

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I think you might be making the error that the wider Tory party is as policy and doctrine based as politics on the left. That isn't true, whilst policy debate is important, the conservative eco-system is far more about power, in groups and out groups and court politics, Its why they tend to be 'better' at sticking together and more brutal in getting rid of leaders once they aren't useful anymore. You can't map how the 'left' functions onto the 'right'.
 
I think you might be making the error that the wider Tory party is as policy and doctrine based as politics on the left. That isn't true, whilst policy debate is important, the conservative eco-system is far more about power, in groups and out groups and court politics, Its why they tend to be 'better' at sticking together and more brutal in getting rid of leaders once they aren't useful anymore. You can't map how the 'left' functions onto the 'right'.
well yes - but if they are after power for their particular faction - why are they getting behind the walking calamity that is truss? I cant really see what repels them so much about sunak or thingy mordor (expecially in murdochs case) . And if its becasue of headbanger ideological purity - then why dont they go with bad enoch? (and thank fuck they dont).
 
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