Tory Leadership contest 2022

[Fuzzy]

what is it with truss and her hand movements?

 

[billy_bob]

They're all fucking awful. Just total dross - it's like a lineup of the very last people you'd pick to run a country. No vision, no conviction (apart from Sunak's penalty notice, that is). I don't care any more which of them gets it.

 

[nottsgirl]

You’re not joking about Tom “I was in the army” Tuggendhat are you?

 

[Knotted]

In my (limited of course) experience Tories actually really think Sunak is a kind of socialist or at least a "wet" because of the furlough scheme. He is in fact a dedicated Thatcherite of course but I really don't think they'll vote for him. Also he is simply bad at politicking and he's both associated with Boris Johnson and associated with BJ's downfall. It looks like he'll surely make it to the final round though, so that leaves either Truss or Mordaunt as the next PM.

 

[flypanam]

Whats all this calling Tories by their first names? Surely they are all known as gobshites.

The only thing fascinating about this contest is how useless this lot are and how much the tory faithful have been radicalised. temping to report them all to Prevent.

 

[DotCommunist]

what is it with truss and her hand movements?

apeing thatchers gestures from old videos of her speeches seems likely.

 

[Petcha]

I can never remember how to spell Tom's surname that's all

 

[JimW]

You'd have to hope truss wins because outside the 200,000 headbangers in the Tory Party surely no-one able to tie their own shoelaces would vote for her.

 

[contadino]

You'd have to hope truss wins because outside the 200,000 headbangers in the Tory Party surely no-one able to tie their own shoelaces would vote for her.

There'll be a lot of velcro shoes come the next general election.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

So, raised blood pressure during an unprecedented heatwave. Ambulance service overwhelmed and hospitals barely coping. Not a good idea. No telly for me.

I thought I'd watch Antiques Roadshow instead. Fiona Bruce! Aaaaarrrgghh!

 

[sheothebudworths]

That was SO bad
Makes me feel wholly justified for sticking with my own shit job instead of facing up to an intense phobia around having to 'sell myself' in job interviews.

 

[Knotted]

Also one of the things that's very peculiar is this anti-woke thing. It's not that's it's a bad idea from an "appeal to the Tory base" point of view. The weird thing is that they're treating it as policy, or as stances. What the base want to hear is actual casual racism or transphobia etc. from their would be leaders. For them it shows a plain speaking anti-liberal establishment character, and that's what they want - a character. It's all part of the strongman (or woman for that matter) fantasy. I've seen people actually mourning the loss of Johnson, despite the fact he offers nothing. Remember the 2019 manifesto was paper thin. They don't want policy they want a cunt.

Again caveat - my limited experience of these types.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Also one of the things that's very peculiar is this anti-woke thing. It's not that's it's a bad idea from an "appeal to the Tory base" point of view. The weird thing is that they're treating it as policy, or as stances. What the base want to hear is actual casual racism or transphobia etc. from their would be leaders. For them it shows a plain speaking anti-liberal establishment character, and that's what they want - a character. It's all part of the strongman (or woman for that matter) fantasy. I've seen people actually mourning the loss of Johnson, despite the fact he offers nothing. Remember the 2019 manifesto was paper thin. They don't want policy they want a cunt.

Again caveat - my limited experience of these types.

I think there's a lot in that. I can see how Badenoch could play well, though, with a certain kind of headbanger. How can I be racist or sexist when I voted for a black woman?

I'm disappointed her name isn't pronounced 'Bad Enoch'.

 

[stavros]

I can never remember how to spell Tom's surname that's all

The same issue did for Jeremy Hunt.

 

[xenon]

I couldn't face watching this time.

 

[agricola]

Also one of the things that's very peculiar is this anti-woke thing. It's not that's it's a bad idea from an "appeal to the Tory base" point of view. The weird thing is that they're treating it as policy, or as stances. What the base want to hear is actual casual racism or transphobia etc. from their would be leaders. For them it shows a plain speaking anti-liberal establishment character, and that's what they want - a character. It's all part of the strongman (or woman for that matter) fantasy. I've seen people actually mourning the loss of Johnson, despite the fact he offers nothing. Remember the 2019 manifesto was paper thin. They don't want policy they want a cunt.

Again caveat - my limited experience of these types.

TBF a lot of it is about indicating an acceptance of the idea of the game of politics according to the media, as in "I will play along". Disagree with the game, or refuse to play along, and they would get attacked by all those whose careers and power depend on it (as Harry and Meghan have found).

 

[frogwoman]

Also one of the things that's very peculiar is this anti-woke thing. It's not that's it's a bad idea from an "appeal to the Tory base" point of view. The weird thing is that they're treating it as policy, or as stances. What the base want to hear is actual casual racism or transphobia etc. from their would be leaders. For them it shows a plain speaking anti-liberal establishment character, and that's what they want - a character. It's all part of the strongman (or woman for that matter) fantasy. I've seen people actually mourning the loss of Johnson, despite the fact he offers nothing. Remember the 2019 manifesto was paper thin. They don't want policy they want a cunt.

Again caveat - my limited experience of these types.

Didn't Mordaunt and Badenoch come close?

 

[MickiQ]

It seems obvious to me that all five of them know the lay of the land, MadBad Kemi and Tom Tug will get chopped next week with Malificient and Lizzie Dizzie Don't fighting it out for the second spot.
It amused Mrs Q when the moderator they asked if anyone would give a job to Boris and wondered if he was watching, Mrs reckons Amazon will be delivering a new TV to No 10 next week if he was.
She reckoned that MadBad Kemi is toxic and was gritting her teeth when Tom Tug kept going on about the Army, he's worse than my Dad she opined.
Rishi Rich definitely comes across as the only half way competent one amongst the lot.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[frogwoman]

See I think the temptation is gonna be too much for them.

 

[PR1Berske]

See I think the temptation is gonna be too much for them

The boundary changes haven't been confirmed yet and that's why the reticence exists, I think.

 

[Calamity1971]

 

[Puddy_Tat]

The boundary changes haven't been confirmed yet and that's why the reticence exists, I think.

There must be a temptation to 'get a fresh democratic mandate from the people' before they balls anything / everything up

but yes, it would suit them to wait until the gerrymandering / voter suppression is complete...

 

[Knotted]

Didn't Mordaunt and Badenoch come close?

Not from what I saw. Eg. talking about being opposed to self-ID wrt trans rights. Not many people including Tories care about that or even know what it means. I think on an intuitive level they want someone free of influence from the "liberal establishment" not necessarily someone who is particularly illiberal.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I can never remember how to spell Tom's surname that's all

Tuggingcock

 

[LDC]

I think the trans stuff is largely symbolic for the Conservative party rather than it being something they particularly care deeply about. When it gets brought up it's just being used as shorthand to show that they have a general reactionary, libertarian, and far right traditional tendency across the board with social issues, rather than the more recent socially liberal bit of the party.

 

[Spandex]

I've just switched on. Tuggers ' it's all about trust, I was in the army and we had to have trust in our commanders' . Switched off.
According to the twitter these are even on the wrong side?

Those medals L to R:

1939 to 1945 Star (ribbon the wrong way round)
Burma Star?
War Medal 1939 - 1945
Defense Medal

Are you allowed to wear medals you haven't earned? Or is Mordaunt much older than she appears?