Tory lead cut to 6% in poll ..

[taffboy gwyrdd]

http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/news/content/view/full/87395

 

[shagnasty]

Saw an headline saying hague would win if leader ,shades of 92 when they were predicting labour would win with john smith at the helm deja-vu of the first order

 

[London_Calling]

'sleaze' is a bit amorphous isn't it; I think the electorate knows what it means - anything that suits, basically - but to measure it (in order to contrast and compare) you need a definition.

 

[audiotech]

I suspect that when they start pushing hard on immigration then they we will know that they are losing it ie micheal howard 2005

They've started pushing on the issue, see leaflet here and here.

 

[butchersapron]

Knowing that people are often too lazy to click links here be a pic:

 

[tbaldwin]

Gay basher-hughes, pretty safe seat. i expect she's trying to sabotage any labour challenge to him by pulling away what she thinks is a crossover BNP/labour vote.

Has Simon Hughes been bashing gay people recently?
And how`do you know what shes thinking? I think she might just beone of the vast majority of people who think that the UK has to control migration. Not such a suprise surely?

Anyway what are you talking about re Simon Hughes? The IWCA could learn a lot from him.

 

[butchersapron]

Has Simon Hughes been bashing gay people recently?
And how`do you know what shes thinking? I think she might just beone of the vast majority of people who think that the UK has to control migration. Not such a suprise surely?

Anyway what are you talking about re Simon Hughes? The IWCA could learn a lot from him.

Yeah, the tories are really in tune with w/c opinion and really don't play those nasty political games - especially not in an extremely tight contest, no way sir, no way. It's irrelevant whether the vast majority of the population believe that or not as regards her motivation - you can sometimes be quite naive.

 

[tbaldwin]

Yeah, the tories are really in tune with w/c opinion and really don't play those nasty political games - especially not in an extremely tight contest, no way sir, no way. It's irrelevant whether the vast majority of the population believe that or not as regards her motivation - you can sometimes be quite naive.

I can be quite naive eh. Where exactly do you think i said that the Tories dont play those nasty political games?
What about Simon Hughes?

 

[audiotech]

Meanwhile, a Conservative councillor is accused of looking like Nick Griffin. The councillor said he did get the odd comparison, but that it was only facially, "...he is quite a bit porkier than I am."

Source.

 

[butchersapron]

Hey balders did you even bother reading the article before firing up your campaign bus today? Here's some quotes from it:

“Britain is full,” declares Nick Griffin at every opportunity, and he is right

Now it seems the fascists are on the march again. Whether you believe that the British National Party is a thinly veiled rebranding of the National Front or a different animal altogether, many Bermondsey & Old Southwark voters are listening to them (including roughly 2,000 who voted BNP in the 2008 GLA and 2009 European elections). I spend a great deal of time listening to the concerns of voters, and as someone who has lived and worked in this area for fifteen years myself, I am beginning to understand the appeal.

But why are these neglected people turning to the BNP – why not the Conservatives, the natural alternative to socialist excess? First, they assume (rightly or wrongly) that we have been complicit in this nonsense. Second, we assume that as BNP supporters are overwhelmingly disaffected former Labour voters, they are Labour’s problem and that we are therefore able to ignore the whole situation as just another example of Labour's inablity to keep its house in order. It is time for a new approach. BNP supporters aren’t just Labour’s problem – they are a Conservative opportunity.

If you can't read that as a naked appeal to the local BNP vote then there's something wrong with you.

 

[butchersapron]

I can be quite naive eh. Where exactly do you think i said that the Tories dont play those nasty political games?
What about Simon Hughes?

And he's off and running...where did i say what i suggested in my post above? etc

 

[tbaldwin]

I can be quite naive eh. Where exactly do you think i said that the Tories dont play those nasty political games?
What about Simon Hughes?

Try answering the questions butchers.

 

[butchersapron]

What question? I couldn't really care less about simon hughes - at least beyond your attempt to use him to avoid the fact that you can't read the most basic of manouverings by politicians.

 

[tbaldwin]

What question? I couldn't really care less about simon hughes - at least beyond your attempt to use him to avoid the fact that you can't read the most basic of manouverings by politicians.

You claimed Simon Hughes was a gay basher. Are you going to back that up ?

 

[butchersapron]

Am i fuck.

 

[butchersapron]

I have to say this is a corker from you balders, you've really outdone yourself this time. You're attempting to defend a tory from accusations of aiming to attract a vote based appealing to on social prejudice by defending a lib-dem who was most definitely elected on the basis of a campaign designed explicitly to appeal to social prejudices.

 

[tbaldwin]

I have to say this is a corker from you balders, you've really outdone yourself this time. You're attempting to defend a tory from accusations of aiming to attract a vote based appealing to on social prejudice by defending a lib-dem who was most definitely elected on the basis of a campaign designed explicitly to appeal to social prejudices.

Your a prize plum. How long ago was that election? I am not trying to defend any Tories just pointing out that your making silly assumptions that you cant back up.
Your politics is laughable know it all shite. You go on about the IWCA safe in the knowledge that you are never going to get involved.

 

[butchersapron]

Your a prize plum. How long ago was that election? I am not trying to defend any Tories just pointing out that your making silly assumptions that you cant back up.
Your politics is laughable know it all shite. You go on about the IWCA safe in the knowledge that you are never going to get involved.

I just backed them up - i take you've still not bothered to read either the article or the quotes that i helpfully pulled from it knowing full well that you wouldn't bother yourself. As I say, if you're unable to read an appeal to BNP voters and to tory party workers from that you're lucky that others can.

How long ago was the bermondsey election? 27 years. Are you suggesting the MPs and politicians motivations, career mindedness and general willingness to be devious fuckers has changed since then? Improved even? As i said above, you can be very naive.

 

[tbaldwin]

I just backed them up - i take you've still not bothered to read either the article or the quotes that i helpfully pulled from it knowing full well that you wouldn't bother yourself. As I say, if you're unable to read an appeal to BNP voters and to tory party workers from that you're lucky that others can.

How long ago was the bermondsey election? 27 years. Are you suggesting the MPs and politicians motivations, career mindedness and general willingness to be devious fuckers has changed since then? Improved even? As i said above, you can be very naive.

You remind me of a bloke i once knew who was in Militant. My best mate worked in the same factory as him. He was`elected shop steward but everbody laughed at him calling him Trotsky......He really really thought he was on the verge of something.........He was, i think your on that verge too.....

 

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http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/03/01/pound-drops-sharply-as-risks-abound/

 

[London_Calling]

I never understand why people post links without explanation.

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[Kaka Tim]

^ I'm still none the wiser

 

[MrA]

If you can't read that as a naked appeal to the local BNP vote then there's something wrong with you.

Appeal or an alternative to the BNP vote, which I have to say isn't something that is readily evident from any party.

 

[MrA]

^ I'm still none the wiser

Global warming?

 

[butchersapron]

Appeal or an alternative to the BNP vote, which I have to say isn't something that is readily evident from any party.

Er..the whole point is the tories as an alternative to the BNP - not for the BNP to vote BNP.

 

[butchersapron]

^ I'm still none the wiser

He's lost a few quid and now we all must vote UKIP/Tory/do what we're told.

 

[ExtraRefined]

Golbal warming?

GBPUSD. Sterling has lost >2% today faced with the increasing prospect of Brown and Darling remaining in government. If they get back in, well, I hope you don't need to buy any imported goods.

 

[London_Calling]

GBPUSD. Sterling has lost >2% today faced with the increasing prospect of Brown and Darling remaining in government. If they get back in, well, I hope you don't need to buy any imported goods.

Though it does help exports, and therefore employment.

Fwiw, I'm not sure this is about Brown and Darling - atm, both parties seem to want to convince the public they've got big spending plans and the market would seem to prefer a little honesty combined with detailed spending plans.

Part of it, of course, is the coincidence of the election cycle with the need for the markets to know.

 

[kyser_soze]

GBPUSD. Sterling has lost >2% today faced with the increasing prospect of Brown and Darling remaining in government. If they get back in, well, I hope you don't need to buy any imported goods.

It's fallen on the news of the op-polls that are now saying 'hung parliament' which the markets are making an assumption about there being no immediate or clear action to tackle the deficit. Given that 'immediate' action would also be likely to bring calumny down on the currency (according to UBS anyway), this is not a completely bad thing.

There is also, of course, the outlier idea that the treasury and BoE are actually happy about a weakened pound for the moment, for export growth as well as attempting to correct it's long term overvaluation.