Tories want more women dead

[Jeff Robinson]

The spending cuts will inevitably lead to more victims of domestic abuse dying at the hands of their abusers, particularly if they are forced to close, charities have warned....

Domestic violence services, which are mainly funded by local authority grants, have been preparing for some level of funding cuts since October's Comprehensive Spending Review.

But few were prepared for the cuts they are now facing. Services as far afield as Devon, Hull, North Somerset and Nottinghamshire have all been warned there may be no money available for them in 2011 - although a campaign in Devon could see this reduced to 50 per cent and the local councils told Channel 4 News that no decisions were final yet, with a spokesman for Nottinghamshire saying they had "tough choices" and wanted to try and protect existing services....

The chief executive of Women's Aid, Nicola Harwin, told Channel 4 News: "The scary thing is, if domestic violence services are cut, there will be more risk of homicides.

"Two women are killed a week - the cost of a homicide is, on average, £1m. So if you invest in prevention and early intervention schemes, you avoid escalating violence and not only are you saving lives, you're also saving money."

http://www.channel4.com/news/half-of-domestic-violence-services-could-lose-funding

So in other words it will cost more for the tax payer if these services are cut. The only conclusion that can reasonably be drawn is that tory scum want more women to die horrifically at the hands of abusive partners (and are probably sexually aroused by the thought of it). Tory vermin deserve nothing less than violent hatred.

 

[Oswaldtwistle]

http://www.channel4.com/news/half-of-domestic-violence-services-could-lose-funding

So in other words it will cost more for the tax payer if these services are cut.

Excellent point but then you ruin it by coming out with the following pile of tripe...

The only conclusion that can reasonably be drawn is that tory scum want more women to die horrifically at the hands of abusive partners (and are probably sexually aroused by the thought of it). .

What utter fucking bollocks.

 

[nino_savatte]

How is it bollocks? More deaths would be the net result of these cuts. But then, you're the one who likes to chuck around phrases like "political correctness", so no one should be surprised.

 

[DotCommunist]

tory psycho sexuality is all to often revealed to be of a dark and power obsessed kind, thopugh

 

[creak]

Excellent point but then you ruin it by coming out with the following pile of tripe...
What utter fucking bollocks.

Cuts would cost more than they saved (i.e. no financial gain for the Treasury) and more women would die. What's your explanation?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Excellent point but then you ruin it by coming out with the following pile of tripe...


What utter fucking bollocks.

Not really. Based on limited data it is a reasonable conclusion to draw. Unless we know the minutiae of the spending cuts by individual authorities, and can clearly indicate that each decision vis a vis funding for domestic violence-related services is solely a matter of local spending priorities, and that central govt budgets have not been cheese-pared in that area, then it's a rational inference to draw.

So, not so much "utter fucking bollocks" as "possible until we're given decent information that shows that such a thesis is bollocks.

Try giving your critical faculties a test-drive once in a while Os. Who knows? You might like it!

 

[ViolentPanda]

tory psycho sexuality is all to often revealed to be of a dark and power obsessed kind, thopugh

Stockings - Check.

Plastic bag - Check.

Navel Orange - Check.

Suspender belt - Check

Electrical flex around throat - Che---aurghhhhhhh!!!!

 

[ViolentPanda]

How is it bollocks? More deaths would be the net result of these cuts. But then, you're the one who likes to chuck around phrases like "political correctness", so no one should be surprised.

My only issue with Jeff's point is that he says it's the only reasonable conclusion that can be drawn, when actually there are several others, the main other one being that rather than this being something that the Tories are actively pursuing, it's something the effects of which they're eminently indifferent about.

 

[mancboy]

The chief executive of Women's Aid, Nicola Harwin, told Channel 4 News: "The scary thing is, if domestic violence services are cut, there will be more risk of homicides.

"Two women are killed a week - the cost of a homicide is, on average, £1m. So if you invest in prevention and early intervention schemes, you avoid escalating violence and not only are you saving lives, you're also saving money."

This is the depressing bit - when the Chief Exec of WOMEN'S AID, ffs, has to qualify her stance with a line about saving money because it really is the only language these cunts will understand.

 

[past caring]

Stockings - Check.

Plastic bag - Check.

Navel Orange - Check.

Suspender belt - Check

Electrical flex around throat - Che---aurghhhhhhh!!!!

2/5ths Tory.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

This is the depressing bit - when the Chief Exec of WOMEN'S AID, ffs, has to qualify her stance with a line about saving money because it really is the only language these cunts will understand.

Yes, human life is sacred, but even sacredness has to be subject to a cost-benefit analysis.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I wonder if this thread goes some way to explaining this one

 

[salem]

The hyperbole and political posturing employed by the OP is pretty childish at best.

It's the local authorities which are choosing where to place the axe, half the places mentioned in the article are in Labour or Liberal run areas.

But I suppose it's more fun to say that the TORIES WANT MORE WOMEN DEAD!!11!!one!

 

[bi0boy]

The only conclusion that can reasonably be drawn is that tory scum want more women to die horrifically at the hands of abusive partners (and are probably sexually aroused by the thought of it). Tory vermin deserve nothing less than violent hatred.

Do you think the last Labour government are busy orgasming over the abusive deaths that occurred under their leadership as a direct result of their failure to further double spending on such services?

Also, I suppose my local councillors are deviously wanking over the idea of the increased number of horrifically mutilated corpses that might result from their reduction in spending on repairing potholes despite benefiting from a one-off government grant for the purpose?

Actually I'm going to knock one out by thinking about the old lady who might be dying in that country lane I frequent due to my abject failure not to go up there right now and check no one is lying injured in the middle of the road.

 

[DotCommunist]

you don't have to consciously get a sexual thrill from being evil but it is there even if your brain won't accept it and dresses that urge up as ' right wing politics'

 

[ViolentPanda]

2/5ths Tory.

It's eminently socialist to like stockings and suspender belts, comrade. It's the other stuff in combination with them that defines the Tory in all their vileness.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The hyperbole and political posturing employed by the OP is pretty childish at best.

It's the local authorities which are choosing where to place the axe, half the places mentioned in the article are in Labour or Liberal run areas.

But I suppose it's more fun to say that the TORIES WANT MORE WOMEN DEAD!!11!!one!

You're kind of missing the point that it is central government that has decided to reduce the budget for that particular area of LA spending, so that whatever local authorities do - whether they spread the pain equally, or kick specific services "to the kerb", they're going to have an effect on this kind of service, when they could have prevented it by hypothecating or "ring-fencing" that part of the budget. The fact that such an action wasn't considered is indicative of central government priorities on the matter.

 

[past caring]

It's eminently socialist to like stockings and suspender belts, comrade. It's the other stuff in combination with them that defines the Tory in all their vileness.

*phew*

 

[ViolentPanda]

Do you think the last Labour government are busy orgasming over the abusive deaths that occurred under their leadership as a direct result of their failure to further double spending on such services?

I can think of a few. Here's a few pictures of them on the vinegars:

Also, I suppose my local councillors are deviously wanking over the idea of the increased number of horrifically mutilated corpses that might result from their reduction in spending on repairing potholes despite benefiting from a one-off government grant for the purpose?

Actually I'm going to knock one out by thinking about the old lady who might be dying in that country lane I frequent due to my abject failure not to go up there right now and check no one is lying injured in the middle of the road.

I always knew you were a wrong'un.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

It's the local authorities which are choosing where to place the axe, half the places mentioned in the article are in Labour or Liberal run areas.

It's hardly their fault that they've been forced into such a position is it? And its the tory led coalition that are creating the financial and social pressures that are putting further strain on relationships that are already leading to an increase in violence against women. Furthermore, it's the tory lead government that are cutting legal aid and the police and social services required to assist victims of domestic violence aswell as trying to water down an international agreement to protect women against domestic and sexual violence. What more proof do you need? The tories want women dead.

 

[past caring]

There are a few Tory women I can think of to whom I would happily do violence.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

mmm, I don't think I could go that far. I would be happy to see other women beating them to a pulp though.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Also, the day that Thatcher dies will be a partay.

 

[frogwoman]

There is a massive sexual component in fascism. No reason why there wouldn't be one in toryism as well.

 

[_angel_]

at this whole thread

 

[past caring]

mmm, I don't think I could go that far. I would be happy to see other women beating them to a pulp though.

I am reminded of the passage in Russell Banks' novel, "Coudsplitter", the story of John Brown as narrated by his son, Owen. During one early passage, the pair have taken an escaped slave across the border into Canada but, having set him on his way, realise that they are being tailed by a bounty hunter who is intent on capturing and returning the slave. They double back, catch the bounty hunter and for a while, it appears that John Brown may execute him - that, at least is certainly the fear that Owen expresses to his father after they leave the bounty hunter bound with his own shackles in the woods. John Brown admits that he had considered execution and admits that he could not bring himself to do it. But after a moment's reflection he then announces, "I'll have to learn".

 

[Jeff Robinson]

There is a massive sexual component in fascism. No reason why there wouldn't be one in toryism as well.

Exactly, just think of John Redwood, who said date rapes were just “disagreements” between lovers. There's a sign of pychosexual maniac if ever there was one. And Dotcommunist is 100% correct that being right wing is basically just having a pychosexual disorder.

 

[frogwoman]

Well think about (i think) david cameron's statements about the cuts earlier this year, would be be "penetrating" "hard" etc.

 

[bi0boy]

Exactly, just think of John Redwood, who said date rapes were just “disagreements” between lovers. There's a sign of pychosexual maniac if ever there was one. And Dotcommunist is 100% correct that being right wing is basically just having a pychosexual disorder.

This is true, in the same way all left-wing people have a juvenille-anal fixation - Freud was a frickin genius.

 

[bi0boy]

Well think about (i think) david cameron's statements about the cuts earlier this year, would be be "penetrating" "hard" etc.

Yeah and Bob Crowe's remarks about the "retention" of on-train catering facilities.