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Today was the start of the Great Miners’ Strike of 1984/85.

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Twenty-five years ago, an accelerated programme of pit closures triggered the miners’ strike, which divided friends and families and ended with the loss of tens of thousands of jobs.

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Strikers hold out: One year after the start of the 1984 miners strike at Cortonwood, a picket offers a model snowman to Police


Just as the images document that extraordinary year, so the sounds continue to echo down a quarter of a century. They are the chants in the set-piece battles between strikers and police – “Here we go, here we go!” and the martially rhythmic “The miners united … will never be defeated!” But even more memorable, perhaps, is the tersely poetic taunt of a striker asked about his colleagues who had defied the picket lines to return to work before the end of a the year-long walk-out: “I won’t always be skint, but they’ll always be scabs.”

Deep scars of battle

‘Downturn’ is a word all too familiar in former mining towns. But 25 years after the strike against pit closures began, can they cope in the latest recession? By Peter Hetherington

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Ronnie Campbell, MP for Blyth Valley, outside the former Woodhorn colliery, which is now a museum. Photograph: Christopher Thomond


In his colourful constituency office, Ronnie Campbell is surrounded by the memorabilia of mining, from graphic posters of battles won and lost to a large colliery mural painted for him by a local drug addict. His desk is adorned with lumps of coal in a large bowl, from his last shift at Bates colliery - a final testament to 29 years of working underground.

Much as he tries, the MP for Blyth can’t escape the past, particularly his role as chairman of the National Union of Mineworkers’ local branch in the year-long miners’ strike, which began 25 years ago this month. “I was in the thick of it,” he recalls with a hint of pride and, perhaps, regret as he recalls the words of the late NUM vice-president, Mick McGahey, when the bitter dispute finally ended: “We never led you properly. We should have settled.”

Campbell, an earthy, passionate man, proud of his working-class roots, picketed far afield in 1984-85, particularly in Nottinghamshire, where the rival Union of Democratic Mineworkers was born to challenge the NUM. “We all got a thump or two from police,” he recalls. “I was hit with a truncheon on the back, and they had a habit of kicking us on the shins.”


Miners’ strike ‘doomed to fail’

It is 25 years since the beginning of the miners’ strike. Miners walked out of the Cortonwood Colliery in Yorkshire in protest at plans to close it. Correspondent Bob Walker talks to a miner who returned to work after six months - crossing the picket lines. Conservative peer Norman Tebbit discusses his memories of the how government dealt with the strike action.

The National Union of Mineworkers is alive and kicking, and is still representing miners, their families and their communities. The NUM is still very active industrially and politically. It is over twenty four years since the start of the Great Miners’ Strike of 1984/85. We warned then that if our arguments for a role for coal in our energy requirements were not heeded then the country would pay a heavy price. Twenty four years on we have been proved absolutely correct.

Most of the nation’s collieries have been closed, we are now at the mercy of foreign importers and gas and oil prices are rocketing. Our own gas reserves have been depleted at an alarming rate as we have squandered them in massive quantities in gas-fired power stations when we could have used coal. At the same time we have been squandering our indigenous coal reserves, with which this nation was blessed, by sterilising them in closed coal mines. At the same time we have been squandering the talents of our skilled workforce by making them redundant.
 
Cant believe its been a quarter of a century, remember getting off the school bus and all the men were beered up outside the pub with a big homemade banner, real carnival atmosphere.

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Halcyon days of which we will not see the like of again. National Union of Call Centre Workers doesn't have the same ring to it. :(
 
Listening to local radio and the BBC News Channel, its incredible but perhaps not surprising, how visceral the emotions and feelings of many people involved in the GMS still are, many ex miners still won't speak to their kin who broke the strike.


It's there even on the Tories side!, Peter Walker was on bashing Scargill as if it was yesterday.


btw, whatever happened to that twat, 'Silver Birch', wonder how much he was paid? Judas!
 
Cant believe its been a quarter of a century, remember getting off the school bus and all the men were beered up outside the pub with a big homemade banner, real carnival atmosphere.

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Yes 25 years ago i was a young un and this was my first taste of Class War, as you see this is what the media are saying.. underclassrising are doing a write up be with you monday meantime we are left with the reports i half herd radio 4 today will give it a full liston..
 
btw, whatever happened to that twat, 'Silver Birch', wonder how much he was paid? Judas!

I remember copies of this and 'Scabs not served here!' notes pinned to shop and pub doors in the Valleys

"After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made a scab."

"A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles."

"When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out."

"No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself." A scab has not.

"Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commision in the british army." The scab sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.

Esau was a traitor to himself; Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a scab is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class
." Author --- Jack London (1876-1916)
 
[/QUOTE]The Thatcher method is now adopted in Russia and Ukraine were this time the IMF and the World Bank are forcing mine closure: (50% of all mines to be closed within two years).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/articles/2009/01/28/miners_strike_stories.shtml
One of the people, Dr Brigitte Pemberton, who was involved in Police Watch , a monitoring group at the time, and who now works in development in Eastern Europe, says a similar decimation of their coal industry/communities is happening there now.:(:mad:
 
btw, whatever happened to that twat, 'Silver Birch', wonder how much he was paid? Judas!

Chris Butcher, still lives in the same house he did during the strike (or did on the 20th anniversary). Always claims he made fuck all from it, tho I imagine he's a lying little shit, as well as being a scabbing little shit
 
i remember it well i lived in swansea at the time as a student, there was a lot of support from the students there, mostly collecting money for the miners

i visited swansea about 15 years later and got into a conversation with a shop keeper about the strike, (it was during the petrol blockade) they were telling me that they had no sympathy with the truckers because of their anti-miner activities during the strike, they continued to take work from the coal board and didn't support the strike

i'd say up in the old mining villages in south wales/yorkshire, there is still bad feeling about it
 
I have some fond memories of the South Yorkshire coalfields and the mining communities there. I fondly remember too the people from many other communities, who gave much support to that struggle in those difficult times. :)
 
Ian McMillan's poem for the Miners Strike

It feels like a hundred years ago, or it could just be last week When they stood on a freezing picket line and history took a turn When communities refused to die or turn the other cheek And what did we learn, eh? What did we learn?

For a year the pit wheels stood stock still, And money dwindled, then ran out But collectivism's hard to kill And if you stand and listen, you'll still hear them shout... But what did we learn, eh? What did we learn?

It feels like just a week ago, or it could be a hundred years When the police vans charged with their sirens on through the silent weeping streets;

And they cooked and marched and argued through a mist of pain and fear And a shut down pit's a symbol of depression and defeat So what did we learn, eh? What did we learn?

The past is not just Kings and Queens, it's those like me and you Who clashed with a woman at Number 10, who had to stand and fight Cos when your way of life's being smashed to bits, what else can you do?

As the pickets braziers glow and smoke in the freezing Yorkshire night; What did we learn, he? What did we learn? Buy frozen peas where the braziers burned What did we learn? What should we learn?

Ian McMillan, March 2009
 
Fucking hell, 25 years.

I remember vanload after vanload of Humberside Police passing the top of my street on their way to the M62 to the pits. Looking more like an army on manoevres than your friendly neighbourhood bobbies. I was only 14/15, but it was one of those moments.

I also remember my not entirely successful attempts to collect money for the strikers from my schoolmates' dinner money. :oops:
 
I'm interested in people on this thread's opinions about the ethics about insisting on a non-secret ballot for strike action.

Is there any difference between a union being dead keen on knowing who voted how in a strike ballot and an incumbent government being dead keen on knowing who voted how in a general election? Is it not just another way of trying to exert anti-democratic intimidation?

Another question is whether the principle of trying to extort taxpayer subsidies for unprofitable industries is one by which a society ought to be run.

I'm not condoning what Thatcher did to mining communities, but would adding EU 'coal mountain' to 'butter mountain' and 'wine lake' have been the way forward?
 
Bad wolveryeti even questioning the sainted miners very bad .Scargill made mistakes and Thatcher won .Not really anything worth celebrating getting beaten by the tories .
 
tho not quite as big a tool as those who think it would have made a blind bit of difference

Comeing from someone who works for a project in Sheffield that has just fucked over the community it was working for (alleged of course), what did you do to defend them belboid? apart from bleat on in the local news?


"No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with."
 
tho not quite as big a tool as those who think it would have made a blind bit of difference

It would've made a difference -it would have put the strike on the back foot for at least a year and destroyed forward momentum whilst giving the state much needed breathing space as well as making it almost impossible to go back out. That people still can't see that today is shocking.
 
C"No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with."

Stop the posturing you silly cunt. Real people fight real battles. You are just an internet ranter bringing those real battles into disrepute with your hot air
 
Comeing from someone who works for a project in Sheffield that has just fucked over the community it was working for (alleged of course), what did you do to defend them belboid? apart from bleat on in the local news?

fuck off you know nothing prick.

You stick to copying n pasting other peoples rants off the internet, there's a good little arsehole.
 
Stop the posturing you silly cunt. Real people fight real battles. You are just an internet ranter bringing those real battles into disrepute with your hot air

So friends or family was not impacted by the strike, i did not see my step Dad die in 1986 following the strike, friends or family do not live in the community that has just been fucked over, and what the fuck would i know, except ive herd all the hot air from so called union reps and self proclaimed community leaders befor, of course one is just a ranter and you are whome might i ask?
 
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