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great. thank you. Yep, from 'just things as they are' to 'everything thats untouched by us'.Request Rejected
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great. thank you. Yep, from 'just things as they are' to 'everything thats untouched by us'.Request Rejected
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Was trying to find his bit on 'Nature' in Keywords online. It's worth a read.great. thank you. Yep, from 'just things as they are' to 'everything thats untouched by us'.
Thats quite sciencey, as a definition. You seem to be saying if humans just cultivated or extracted it it would still be Nature but if they made a new thing from bits of nature then it would be not, it would be .. artificial. So copper is nature but bronze isnt.Nature (and the word natal) both come from a root that implies birth and some kind of living process. Not a car. Not ketamine for example. Most drugs come from some sort of living root. Ketamine doesn't. Ketamine is a purely chemical reaction, put together by humans. Doesn't start from nature, as a living process like a plant. Therefore we need 'nature' as a word to distinguish from other more artificial concepts like ketamine. And cars.
Thats quite sciencey, as a definition. You seem to be saying if humans just cultivated or extracted it it would still be Nature but if they made a new thing from bits of nature then it would be not, it would be .. artificial.
Certainly in Britain, and I guess in the majority of the world, the landscape and countryside are entirely the result of human activity rather than being in any way "natural".Yep. Like oh look at the pretty view, of nature.
Yep. The cause of this thread is me sending a picture of a flower i grew (with great artifice) from seed to a friend and her replying something about the glory of Nature.Certainly in Britain, and I guess in the majority of the world, the landscape and countryside are entirely the result of human activity rather than being in any way "natural".
Very little of what might commonly (not just in marketing speak) be referred to as nature or natural is genuinely so, if by the word we mean complete apart from any sort of human influence.
That's an interesting example.Yep. The cause of this thread is me sending a picture of a flower i grew (with great artifice) from seed to a friend and her replying something about the glory of Nature.
Yep, it was in fact a rose, with a name, bred by some man a few decades ago and perpetuated since because humans love it, the most unnatural of things really. Smells great.That's an interesting example.
Unless the seed you grew from is one which you collected from a wild flower, it's likely to have been deliberately altered from its original "natural" form by selective breeding to enhance and encourage particular characteristics (colour, smell, size of bloom, etc) and that's before you went through the process of growing it.
It might be glorious (I'm sure it is) but it isn't Nature, or even natural.
Is a bird's nest natural?I'm saying nature is the phenomena of the physical world, one that is born. There is no way ketamine can fit this definition. It doesn't come from the living physical world. There is no plant or animal you can even start to obtain ketamine from. This, therefore, is the very definition of artificial.
And dogs.You know, humans invented lemons. So they're not a part of nature.
What is the word nature for? It exists just to vaguely and idiotically denote ‘stuff that’s nice and not us or connected to us’, which romantic notion is actually a pointless & deluded category to think with.
I’m going to stop using the word nature ever again because it’s crap. Probably invented by the victorians. Like the picturesque and cute Xmas cards with kittens on.
Am I wrong & if so when is Nature a meaningful pointful thing to say please thanks.
okay. Is my cat part of that world ? Are you part of it?To me 'nature' is a convenient shorthand for 'The natural world'.
I like this question. If it is natural then so is my house thats made of lumps of burned mud, right?Is a bird's nest natural?
Is a bird's nest natural?
Did you grow it? Or did it grow itself? You may have bought it and planted it and watered it but I think it took over and grew itself.Yep. The cause of this thread is me sending a picture of a flower i grew (with great artifice) from seed to a friend and her replying something about the glory of Nature.
Trees rivers animals etc.. is my cat part of Nature? If he is then am I as well or not?
okay. Is my cat part of that world ? Are you part of it?
Nah I think Johnson loves the word nature, he probably uses it all the time to excuse his pathetic misdemeanors or to invite people to chequers for the weekend.Did you grow it? Or did it grow itself? You may have bought it and planted it and watered it but I think it took over and grew itself.
Johnson and his mates would love to get rid of the word 'nature' so they could build all over the countryside. And yes it's a man-managed countryside but I prefer that to the concrete and bricks that will replace it.
Bit of a swerve thereNah I think Johnson loves the word nature, he probably uses it all the time to excuse his pathetic misdemeanors or to invite people to chequers for the weekend.
Then you're using it in an idiosyncratic way. If you mean all living things and all of their doings, so that includes bonzai and pizza delivery apps as part of nature, which is fine, if that's your understanding of the word, but unusual.Yes, of course, we all are.
Nah I think Johnson loves the word nature, he probably uses it all the time to excuse his pathetic misdemeanors or to invite people to chequers for the weekend.
Nature (and the word natal) both come from a root that implies birth and some kind of living process. Not a car. Not ketamine for example. Most drugs come from some sort of living root. Ketamine doesn't. Ketamine is a purely chemical reaction, put together by humans. Doesn't start from nature, as a living process like a plant. Therefore we need 'nature' as a word to distinguish from other more artificial concepts like ketamine. And cars.