This is scary, arrogant and fundamentalist.
The Virgin Mary
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This is scary, arrogant and fundamentalist.
bcuster
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You scare easily
Fundamentalists have that effect on me.
JimW
支那暗杀团
He does have his defenders who think the behaviour of his army was par for the course by the rules of war at the time, e.g. Godly Brutality: The Cromwellian Conquest of Ireland, 1649-1650 ; the massacres at Drogheda and Wexford are notorious though.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
No need to sign your posts.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Global love for Mary
www.ncronline.org
In Asia, the Virgin Mary transcends religious boundaries
The presence of Marian devotions in Singapore, Korea and Vietnam demonstrates that Mary can be an interreligious bridge, says theologian and cultural anthropologist Michel Chambon.
www.ncronline.org
Global love for Mary
In Asia, the Virgin Mary transcends religious boundaries
The presence of Marian devotions in Singapore, Korea and Vietnam demonstrates that Mary can be an interreligious bridge, says theologian and cultural anthropologist Michel Chambon.
Tldr?
Liberal take on how Mary is seen and interpreted in other cultures.
This bit is of particular interest and goes against bcuster's "true Catholics" reactionary take:
Worshippers and devotees are not easily reducible to their predefined religions. They assert their own hopes and needs that are often shaped by religious languages, sociopolitical realities and cultural habits.
It means your claim that liberal Irish Catholics aren't "real Catholics" doesn't hold up, when you apply the logic used in the paragraph I quoted from your liberal magazine article that you evidently didn't read.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Mary is favourite for the 2pm race at Worcester today.
If the horse wins, it will undoubtedly prove all that has been said of her namesake. Not only True Catholics, but Protestants, Muslims and the very beasts proclaim the glory of Mary!
If it loses, it will show that horse racing and gambling are ungodly vices to be abominated.
If the horse wins, it will undoubtedly prove all that has been said of her namesake. Not only True Catholics, but Protestants, Muslims and the very beasts proclaim the glory of Mary!
If it loses, it will show that horse racing and gambling are ungodly vices to be abominated.
Dunno..
But Mutual Respect is also running...might be a better option for you to choose.
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andysays
Love and solidarity
This post, like much else on the thread, is a complete misrepresentation of Catholic teaching.
Reading the thread it's striking how many non-Catholics are determined to "explain" to currently practising Catholics what Catholicism is or means.
I recognise that some posters are approaching this from the position of disagreeing with or being opposed to all religions, but many of these posts are examples of specifically anti-Catholic feeling, whether deliberate, conscious or not.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
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I was brung up in the Scottish protestant church. Basically a social club for my parents. I remember the minister telling us from the pulpit that Catholics were bad. That was one of the (many) stupid things that made me leave the church. A few years ago I went to a Catholic mass in a lovely catherdal in Spain for the culture of it. Just about identical to the services I remembered from childhood. When thinking of religion I can't help remembering the scene from Life of Brian when they start bickering over shoes and sandals.
Is there any basis for this belief anywhere? I'm genuinely curious where it originates.Here's another giant of protestantism on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary; they all seem to firmly support the doctrine; hmm; I wonder why.... (hint: because it's true)
all of them, except the monster whose name shall not be menentioned (Cr...wel.)....
- John Wesley, like many prominent Protestant leaders such as Zwingli, Luther, Swedenborg and Calvin, firmly maintained that Mary was a perpetual virgin, meaning that she never had sexual relations with Joseph nor did she bare any other children except Jesus Christ.
John Wesley and the Perpetual Virginity of Mary
John Wesley, like many prominent Protestant leaders such as Zwingli [1] , Luther [2] , and Calvin [3] , firmly maintained that Mary was a p...thecatholicwesleyan.blogspot.com
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
There's as much basis for this belief about the Virgin Mary as any other belief about the Virgin Mary.
Richard46
Talking Backwards
I give you Matthew 10 34-39
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
Jesus as a man of peace is a selective reading of the gospel. I commend those who select the peaceful bits but it is still selective.
PTK
Paul Kegan
I would add that other Christian churches also condemned the Jewish people as being guilty of the murder of Jesus.
Martin Luther was notorious for his anti-Jewish views, which is why the Nazi regime in Germany celebrated him.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
I only note the differences between a liberal view politics and social policy vs liberal distortion of certain, very few infallible Catholic dogma.
I've read the synoptic gospels recently and I was even thinking of starting a thread on it. I find Matthew terrifyingly especially if read in the context of a soon expected bloody apocalypse (which obviously didn't happen). I don't think the above language is metaphorical.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
'T'was ever thus. That's why nice Jesus is a thing and fash Jesus is a thing, all depending on who does the selecting.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Not "ever". Only for the past 2,000 years. Fully modern humans have been around for a couple of hundred thousand years. 200,000 years in a Fallen condition. Why did The Lord not redeem us through these long cruel millennia? Was He asleep?
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Well, quite. It's pick and mix. Believers pick the bits they like, and explain the bits they don't like by claiming that's it's all a metaphor, or to be explained by the culture of the times, or whatever is the flavour of the month for trying to say that words don't mean what they say. Whether you tell people to kill every suspected heretic, and let God sort them out, or sit about with a gormless grin on your face singing Kumbaya, you can justify it, and say that everyone else just isn't getting it.
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ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
((((Plato))))
Humberto
anthropocene participant
Might be a good idea if the christians had some kind of organisation then.
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