The Virgin Mary
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PTK
Paul Kegan
It is certainly true that the Roman Catholic Church promoted anti-Jewish prejudice, as did other Christian churches. Insulting me does nothing to address that claim.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Tbf, don't always agree with PTK, but not sure what the SWP has to do with this?
Humberto
Callooh! Callay!
They are quite dogmatic.
JimW
支那暗杀团
I think so, there is also a Coptic Catholic Church that is in full communion and recognises the Roman pope, but think recently relations have improved with the trad lot and their services have always been seen as valid just mistaken, schismatics not heretics
But could well eb wrong.Pope's aren't always infallible, only when they specifically say they're doing it.
PTK
Paul Kegan
The "infallibility" applies to statements with regard to doctrine, not to every decision made.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Perhaps you can enlighten us, and tell us when it was that the Roman Catholic Church ceased to blame the Jewish people for murdering God.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Are you joking? Isn't the whole point of religion claiming to have the answer to life, the universe and everything?
Typical misrepresentation.
Where did I say that?
The answer to life the universe and everything is 42...
You still have not apologised for your personal attacks.
Your whole presence on this thread is one of Anti Catholic and Anti Christian. You've trashed all beliefs in God(s) which would imply that you are Anti all religion...you did call all religions "Woo"... and your comments are not just statements of your own atheism. They're very much aggressive in tone and it's pretty obvious to any reader that you have zero time for people who have faith of any kind.
Which leads me to consider the possibility that you are in fact intolerant of much of the population in the world.
As for the "whole point of religion" claiming answers to everything... I don't believe any religion has those answers. I think there have been messages which have passed down for thousands of years. Human interpretations documented and that there are some things that cannot be explained by anyone...
I definitely don't have any answers for you. I have a personal faith that works for me. I pray and it means something to me. I've already stated my abhorrence for all evil doing carried out by any human...and especially religious leaders priests Bishops nuns brothers. I do not believe those people were actually practicing Catholicism / Christianity to it's truth. I believe they were the opposite of Christian. Interpret that whatever way you want. But nobody can do harm if they are truly Christian. So many many "Christians" have not lived up to the actual Christian life. ...and many have been acting and doing things that are effectively "Anti Christian".
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
There has been a pretty nasty history of antisemitism from the Church throughout history. Some details here https://www.jstor.org/stable/44505335
You can't blame the origin.
The message to love your neighbour as yourself if carried out, would mean an end to all wars...and a life of peace and sharing for all. It should be the aim for all of us. Many would say that the original message was radical..especially 2000 years ago. It's pretty radical even now .. the world of men(in the sense of all humans) is putting up walls instead of trying to help fellow man...
"When will they ever learn".
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Here's another giant of protestantism on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary; they all seem to firmly support the doctrine; hmm; I wonder why.... (hint: because it's true)
all of them, except the monster whose name shall not be menentioned (Cr...wel.)....
thecatholicwesleyan.blogspot.com
all of them, except the monster whose name shall not be menentioned (Cr...wel.)....
- John Wesley, like many prominent Protestant leaders such as Zwingli, Luther, Swedenborg and Calvin, firmly maintained that Mary was a perpetual virgin, meaning that she never had sexual relations with Joseph nor did she bare any other children except Jesus Christ.
John Wesley and the Perpetual Virginity of Mary
John Wesley, like many prominent Protestant leaders such as Zwingli [1] , Luther [2] , and Calvin [3] , firmly maintained that Mary was a p...
thecatholicwesleyan.blogspot.com
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bcuster
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What Islam really teaches about the Virgin Mary
In the Quran, Mary is twice chosen: as the pious girl dwelling in the Temple, and as the mother of Jesus.
www.americamagazine.org
The Quran narrates the virgin birth of Jesus numerous times.
....orthodox Islamic belief has upheld the virgin birth of Jesus,[5] and although the classical Islamic thinkers never dwelt on the question of the perpetual virginity of Mary,[5] it was generally agreed in traditional Islam that Mary remained a virgin throughout her life, with the Quran's mention of Mary's purification “from the touch of men” implying perpetual virginity in the minds of many of the most prominent Islamic fathers.[6]
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bcuster
Well-Known Member
Want more?
www.ibtimes.com
Why Hindus In India Venerate Mother Mary, The Blessed Virgin Of Roman Catholicism
Eighty percent of pilgrims who formally honor Mother Mary at shrines in India come from non-Catholic backgrounds.
www.ibtimes.com
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Buddhists striving for the mark
Happy Tree
maagilises metsas
So, hurray I guess! Must be true.
Why is her perpetual virginity important anyway? Is sex bad? In marriage? Is it better for her to be a virgin than a married woman who loved her husband in the normal and God-sanctioned ways? Seems a bit odd, this fetishisation of virginity.
Why is her perpetual virginity important anyway? Is sex bad? In marriage? Is it better for her to be a virgin than a married woman who loved her husband in the normal and God-sanctioned ways? Seems a bit odd, this fetishisation of virginity.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Please read this:
Here we will be concerned chiefly with why the answer to the question matters.
Why Mary's Perpetual Virginity Matters
Mary’s perpetual virginity is denied by most Protestants today. Was Mary a virgin for her entire life? And why does it matter? Read more here.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
It all comes down to this.
One bunch of people, let's call them The Possessors of the Absolute Truth, believe they and they alone know the absolute truth about certain self-selected things. These things primarily concern divine intervention of one sort or another. The only proof they have is that other Possessors of the Absolute Truth have maintained the same assertions in the past.
Another bunch of people, let's call them Searchers for Truth*, say words to the effect that we don't need these unverifiable assertions to live our lives, not in the slightest, and that until we have some actual proof we won't take these claims seriously at all. We may indeed ridicule these assertions if we feel like it.
The first lot only have such power and authority in the world as they do have because of a long history of violence, authoritarianism, corruption, hypocrisy and worse.
* I only used this last description to annoy the Possessors of Absolute Truth
One bunch of people, let's call them The Possessors of the Absolute Truth, believe they and they alone know the absolute truth about certain self-selected things. These things primarily concern divine intervention of one sort or another. The only proof they have is that other Possessors of the Absolute Truth have maintained the same assertions in the past.
Another bunch of people, let's call them Searchers for Truth*, say words to the effect that we don't need these unverifiable assertions to live our lives, not in the slightest, and that until we have some actual proof we won't take these claims seriously at all. We may indeed ridicule these assertions if we feel like it.
The first lot only have such power and authority in the world as they do have because of a long history of violence, authoritarianism, corruption, hypocrisy and worse.
* I only used this last description to annoy the Possessors of Absolute Truth
Please, no more.Want more?
Why Hindus In India Venerate Mother Mary, The Blessed Virgin Of Roman Catholicism
Eighty percent of pilgrims who formally honor Mother Mary at shrines in India come from non-Catholic backgrounds.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
wut?
