The Virgin Mary

[Humberto]

https://www.stgwenns.org/index.php?page=10

Truly a remarkable woman

It's just not something I can put down so easily. Thanks.


Anyway Whitchurch Canonicorum. Spliff/flask of tea next time?

 

[8ball]

https://www.stgwenns.org/index.php?page=10

Truly a remarkable woman

The triple breasted thing as described/explained here doesn’t really make any sense in the context of mammals having a number of breasts which tends to round towards double the average litter size.

The story as reported would make (slightly) more sense if she had six.

 

[krtek a houby]

Why is Mary so worshipped anyway? Is there anything in the Bible to support such idolatry? I was under the impression it was not advised to worship anyone other than God. Did the Catholics find a loophole?

Anyway, my own beliefs are agnostic. I can't say for sure one way or the other. My daily reality is tangible Newtonian physics with a bit of spiritual intuition thrown in which could well be coincidence or may be synchronicity. Science tells us of a quantum reality underlying this one which is decidedly spooky and barely understood. Nobody knows what consciousness is or why anything exists at all.

All the theories are interesting to research. I've read about NDEs and OBEs. Had a couple of OBEs myself. Spoke to "God" during which I understood the universe presents itself in whatever form is most meaningful to us, be it any of the religious beliefs and philosophies. Which produces the hedging truth that everyone is right. Maybe that was just a conversation with myself in a moment of self-realisation. Who knows? I wouldn't bet the farm on any firm answer.

It's a mystery.

As a young person in Ireland, it often felt like a cult. Marys in every corner of every parish. It tipped over into hysteria when she/they started to move around in the grottos.

Meanwhile, as the Maryists worshipped a lie, lies were used against real women who were vilified for so-called immoral behaviour.

Dark days.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

maybe I am. The Catholic view of Oliver Cromwell is that he is an intolerant monster. The English lauded him as a national hero

They certainly didn't. He was popular among a small group of religious maniacs - the Puritans. However, there was huge celebration in England when the restoration happened, and Oliver was soon forgotten.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

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The Virgin Mary

I think Swedie quite liked Her. An odd view for a protestant...

Not odd at all. she's considered to be a saint in protestantism, and is given respect. Not worshipped though. I know you claim that Catholics don't worship her, but you pray to her, sing hymns to her, call her the queen of heaven, etc, which sounds very like worship to me.

 

[Knotted]

If someone sincerely believes that they have knowledge that will keep me from an eternity of hellfire, then I can actually respect that they would try to tell me about it.

Yeah, I'm quit pissed with my local Jehovah Witnesses that they don't come knocking anymore.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yeah, I'm quit pissed with my local Jehovah Witnesses that they don't come knocking anymore.

The wonderful thing about jws is that you can easily find them outside eg train stations

 

[PTK]

The wonderful thing about jws is that you can easily find them outside eg train stations

In certain parts of the East End of London, they are known as Jehovah's I-never-saw-nothing.
[A joke by the late lamented Linda Smith]

 

[Knotted]

The wonderful thing about jws is that you can easily find them outside eg train stations

I feel they should be approaching me with good news rather than me approaching them with bad news.

 

[bcuster]

It's a mystery.

As a young person in Ireland, it often felt like a cult. Marys in every corner of every parish. It tipped over into hysteria when she/they started to move around in the grottos.

Meanwhile, as the Maryists worshipped a lie, lies were used against real women who were vilified for so-called immoral behaviour.

Dark days.

I don't accept that at all. If one wanted to classify Mary as a "single mother" (which she wasn't); be assured Mary was never vilified by Catholics for this perception; on the contrary, She is regarded as the most important Person in history, behind Jesus, Himself...

 

[bcuster]

What a wonderful feast day for the English; some of the very same folks who tried so hard to crush her veneration during the time of the reign of Cromwell the Monster

Who is Our Lady of Walsingham and why is she important?

Our Lady of Walsingham is a primary patron of English Catholics and is connected to a series of apparitions in the 11th century.

aleteia.org

Our Lady of Walsingham raised to the rank of Feast - Catholic Bishops' Conference

The Vatican has granted permission for Our Lady of Walsingham to be celebrated as a new Feast in the dioceses of England, starting this year on 24 September.

www.cbcew.org.uk

Cromwell's heirs don't deserve Her, but She loves them nonetheless

 

[kabbes]

It’s pretty bizarre to represent the English as some kind of nation of Cromwell-lovers when the reality is that the followers of Cromwell were themselves overthrown and a Catholic king reinstated in their place.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

What a wonderful feast day for the English; some of the very same folks who tried so hard to crush her veneration during the time of the reign of Cromwell the Monster

Why is it wonderful? A huge percentage of English people have no religion and couldn't give a toss about saints and feast days.

 

[bcuster]

Why is it wonderful? A huge percentage of English people have no religion and couldn't give a toss about saints and feast days.

Absolutely true, unfortunately...
Americans are no different