Humberto
Callooh! Callay!
It's just not something I can put down so easily. Thanks.
Anyway Whitchurch Canonicorum. Spliff/flask of tea next time?
The Virgin Mary
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Anyway Whitchurch Canonicorum. Spliff/flask of tea next time?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
The triple breasted thing as described/explained here doesn’t really make any sense in the context of mammals having a number of breasts which tends to round towards double the average litter size.
The story as reported would make (slightly) more sense if she had six.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
It's a mystery.
As a young person in Ireland, it often felt like a cult. Marys in every corner of every parish. It tipped over into hysteria when she/they started to move around in the grottos.
Meanwhile, as the Maryists worshipped a lie, lies were used against real women who were vilified for so-called immoral behaviour.
Dark days.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
They certainly didn't. He was popular among a small group of religious maniacs - the Puritans. However, there was huge celebration in England when the restoration happened, and Oliver was soon forgotten.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Not odd at all. she's considered to be a saint in protestantism, and is given respect. Not worshipped though. I know you claim that Catholics don't worship her, but you pray to her, sing hymns to her, call her the queen of heaven, etc, which sounds very like worship to me.
Yeah, I'm quit pissed with my local Jehovah Witnesses that they don't come knocking anymore.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The wonderful thing about jws is that you can easily find them outside eg train stations
PTK
Paul Kegan
In certain parts of the East End of London, they are known as Jehovah's I-never-saw-nothing.
[A joke by the late lamented Linda Smith]
I feel they should be approaching me with good news rather than me approaching them with bad news.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
I don't accept that at all. If one wanted to classify Mary as a "single mother" (which she wasn't); be assured Mary was never vilified by Catholics for this perception; on the contrary, She is regarded as the most important Person in history, behind Jesus, Himself...
bcuster
Well-Known Member
What a wonderful feast day for the English; some of the very same folks who tried so hard to crush her veneration during the time of the reign of Cromwell the Monster
www.cbcew.org.uk
Cromwell's heirs don't deserve Her, but She loves them nonetheless
Who is Our Lady of Walsingham and why is she important?
Our Lady of Walsingham is a primary patron of English Catholics and is connected to a series of apparitions in the 11th century.
aleteia.org
Our Lady of Walsingham raised to the rank of Feast - Catholic Bishops' Conference
The Vatican has granted permission for Our Lady of Walsingham to be celebrated as a new Feast in the dioceses of England, starting this year on 24 September.
www.cbcew.org.uk
Cromwell's heirs don't deserve Her, but She loves them nonetheless
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Why is it wonderful? A huge percentage of English people have no religion and couldn't give a toss about saints and feast days.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Absolutely true, unfortunately...
Americans are no different
The veneration of Mary especially in Roman Catholicism is a very interesting thing. I must admit to having no idea of about how or why it started. What indeed is going on there?
If you take Mark, then her motherhood of Jesus is explicitly unimportant. (There is also nothing about a virgin birth in Mark).
31 Then his mother and his brothers came; and standing outside, they sent to him and called him.
32 A crowd was sitting around him; and they said to him, "Your mother and your brothers and sisters are outside asking for you."
33 And he replied, "Who are my mother and brothers?"
34 And looking at those who sat around him, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers!
35 Whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother" (Mark 3:31-35).
If you take Mark, then her motherhood of Jesus is explicitly unimportant. (There is also nothing about a virgin birth in Mark).
31 Then his mother and his brothers came; and standing outside, they sent to him and called him.
32 A crowd was sitting around him; and they said to him, "Your mother and your brothers and sisters are outside asking for you."
33 And he replied, "Who are my mother and brothers?"
34 And looking at those who sat around him, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers!
35 Whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother" (Mark 3:31-35).
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Glorification of rape.
PTK
Paul Kegan
What a wonderful feast day for the English; some of the very same folks who tried so hard to crush her veneration during the time of the reign of Cromwell the Monster
Who is Our Lady of Walsingham and why is she important?
Our Lady of Walsingham is a primary patron of English Catholics and is connected to a series of apparitions in the 11th century.aleteia.org
Our Lady of Walsingham raised to the rank of Feast - Catholic Bishops' Conference
The Vatican has granted permission for Our Lady of Walsingham to be celebrated as a new Feast in the dioceses of England, starting this year on 24 September.
Cromwell's heirs don't deserve Her, but She loves them nonetheless
So you quite happy about Bloody Mary having Protestants burned alive?
One of the gnostic sects held Mary Magdalene to be supremely important along with Martha and Mary the mother of Jesus. The women had all the answers. Is this a similar phenomenon? I guess not really, as Catholics don't regard Mary (Jesus's mum) as having important teachings.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Wasn't she a foot fetishist?
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Yes, and she was a laundry woman.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
and a loyal, brave & devoted disciple; one of only three who went with Jesus to the Cross
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Shame she was branded a prostitute by the church for so many years.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
I agree wholeheartedly. That designation was corrected by the Church
No woman is mentioned more than Mary Magdalene except Mary, the mother of Jesus. So she obviously was one of Jesus’ followers in Galilee. She was present at the crucifixion and the burial of Jesus, so is seen as someone who was faithful to the end. And she was the first witness, if not one of the first witnesses, to the resurrection. So one of her titles, which is Apostle to the Apostles, I think indicates how much of a leader she was among Jesus’ followers in the early church.
Glad You Asked: Was Mary Magdalene a prostitute?
On this episode of the podcast, Heidi Schlumpf talks about the origins and accuracy of the popular belief that Mary Magdalene was a sex worker.
uscatholic.org
... the fact that there isn’t any solid scriptural evidence for this idea that Mary Magdalene was a sexual sinner and a sex worker,
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
So when Pope Gregory said she was a prostitute he was wrong. What about the infallibility of popes?
bcuster
Well-Known Member
That statement was not on a matter of faith or morals. It isn't and wasn't an infallible teaching... ever...
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
bcuster
Well-Known Member
- The doctrine of infallibility, while sometimes misunderstood by Catholics and others, is clearly defined by the church’s Code of Canon Law. Canon 749, Section 1, explains that the pope may teach infallibly when he proclaims by definitive act that a certain doctrine of faith or morals is to be believed by the faithful.
What teachings are declared infallible? - Catholic Courier
This is the best explanation of exactly what is & isn't infallible dogma:
Papal Infallibility
Catholic teaching on papal infallibility is often misunderstood by Fundamentalists and other "Bible Christians." Find out what the Church really teaches.
