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The Trump presidency
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CRI
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Each day seems to bring a new fresh Hell. I genuinely think a lot of people thought all the bollocks about building walls and ditching environmental protections during the campaign was just bluster. Stupid, stupid mistake.
I'm wondering what it will take for Trump voters to actually admit they made a massive cock up in voting for him. The hiring freeze that will include VA facilities could be the one that will slap his core supporters hardest. Plenty though will still be cheering for most of what he's doing, so . . .
TheHoodedClaw
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Whoever does the DoD twitter feed has strong subtweet game
That's all interspersed with the usual rah-rah stuff, of course, but still
That's all interspersed with the usual rah-rah stuff, of course, but still
CRI
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I glimpsed that piece when it first came out and I still couldn't imagine he'd be elected. Reading it now and seeing how many of those things he's already done, or at least started on (having broken protocol and assuming authority practically since election day.)
Some dismissed St Louis writer Sarah Kendzior for being alarmist in her predictions, having closely studied the rise of authoritarianism in central Asian countries and knowing the signs very well. Fuck me though, she's been almost 100% right so far. Today, she posted this:
Every goddamn thing I predicted is coming true. And it wasn't that hard to predict: Trump announced his intentions and the rest is obvious to anyone who studies authoritarianism, knows Trump's team, and has a basic knowledge of the US government.
Now I'm only hoping people listen to me on nukes, because yes, he will use them. And yes, I am getting fed up with people acting shocked. Along with a few dozen others, I warned of this over and over, begging people to take the threat seriously. I said in November you had two months. There is not a 2018. There is not a 2020. What you'll be left with in 2017 will be unrecognizable.
coley
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Quite a few sword ( or heavy calibre automatic weapon wielding nutters) just waiting for the presidential nod!
coley
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coley
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Yeah, it's so easy to get distracted by the madness.
I think that should be used though - it's so easy to bait Trump, a section of opposition should dedicate themselves to keeping him in a rage so as to ruin his sheen and keep him unfocused. Meanwhile the rest take on the more serious task of opposing the policies his administration tries to implement. Could also play off different branches and individuals against each other, as the general impression seems to be they're barely tolerating each other as it is.
I mean, it seems so simple I don't see what everyone's worried about...
You really want him to nuke California-
coley
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His ego trumps every other issue.
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coley
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I have a feeling someone might just leak them in the coming months, if in fact they were ever submitted?
coley
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And two major pipelines approved despite the lawful objections of protestors? this isn't about HC any more, she's yesterday's news, this is about someone who's very rapidly using presidential orders to undermine every enviromental protection enacted over decades in order to promote the last gasp,of the FF industry and its associated billionaire class.
coley
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They are both a couple of Robbin bastards, though I'd agree Putin is the far cleverer one.
coley
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And when it happens? 'CIA seeks extradition of members of U75' -
littlebabyjesus
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The single thing that Theresa May has ever done where I thought, for that thing, 'good on you' was her refusing to allow Gary McKinnon to be extradited. She stood up to the US in that moment. Will she similarly stand up to Trump's US?And when it happens? 'CIA seeks extradition of members of U75' -
Seems to me that standing up to (some of) the worst of the US's excesses from the UK isn't a party-political thing here. Wilson did to some extent (although not over Diego Garcia), but then Blair was the worst of the lot. Thatcher actually did object to the invasion of Grenada. That will be a test for May.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
pinochet
littlebabyjesus
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The objection Thatcher made about Grenada was precisely because it was a former British colony. She was incredibly limited in what she would object to, clearly. She was cheering most of it.
Point is that Blair just did whatever the US told him to do. In that respect, he was actually even worse than Thatcher.
And Blair did whatever George Bush, a r/w Republican, told him to do. Beggars belief, really, the murderous fucking arm-gesture-mimicking fucking spineless fucking cunt.
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coley
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On a personal/political basis I'm still unsure about May, what happens when she meets the bastard Buffoon could be very instructive, a tightening of the ' special relationship' or a threat to align with China?
Interesting times ahead-
coley
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For all her Faults, I don't see May as the ' new embodiment' of Thatcher.
teqniq
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littlebabyjesus
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I'm unsure too. But the first response will surely be to give the appearance of trying to tighten the special relationship. In true British style, at the same time, she'll be negotiating like mad with China.On a personal/political basis I'm still unsure about May, what happens when she meets the bastard Buffoon could be very instructive, a tightening of the ' special relationship' or a threat to align with China?
Interesting times ahead-
gosub
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What planet is this bloke on? Of course Mr trump and his friends would survive a nuclear war.
It the 99% of us outside the bunkers that wouldn't
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
littlebabyjesus
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She's not. and tbh anyone thinking she is isn't seeing past her gender.
TheHoodedClaw
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I'm unsure too. But the first response will surely be to give the appearance of trying to tighten the special relationship. In true British style, at the same time, she'll be negotiating like mad with China.
"Sir Humphrey, I'm not sure this spoon has a long enough handle?"
"Prime Minister, the people voted against barge-poles, and now you must sup..."
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
As leader of the neoliberal right party of capital she literally is.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
In that case, so is Tony Blair.
That's pretty reductionist.
I didn't hear people comparing Cameron to Thatcher. Oh, he's the new Thatcher!
Nah, it's cos she's a woman and so was Thatcher. Making that comparison without anything more is seriously crap.
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littlebabyjesus
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Point here anyway isn't that May isn't thatcher but that May isn't trump. Blair not being bush didn't stop him from grovelling to bush... we'll see how may is to trump. Will the Atlanticist tendency win out? Or something else? Don't know.
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