Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

the sir jimmy savile obe thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
paolo said:
I think we all need to calm down and wait to see if there's any truth in these 120 independent allegations.
Click to expand...
Not that it makes it any better but according to the BBC report there are only 8 allegations so far and a claim of "up to 30 victims". Obviously this could be higher. The 120 you quote, is lines of enquiry, not necessarily people claiming abuse/assault on them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19887653
 


'He really reached through the screen and grabbed you.'
Unfortunate turn of phrase there from Alistair McGowan.
 
Compared to the rest of the allegations, a little thing, but very telling nonetheless

A magazine journalist recalled an extraordinary occasion when the girl, aged about 14, who was bald after receiving treatment, lay ‘moaning’ on a mattress next to Savile as he gave an interview
Click to expand...
Savile ordered the journalist to ‘ignore’ the girl and concentrate on the interview.
Click to expand...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215910/Jimmy-Savile-What-Stoke-Mandeville-nurses-told-patients-Jimll-Fix-It-star-came-calling.html
 
From reading the other thread from 2007 about the mugging and what was hinted at there and removed, and the Victor Lewis Smith hignfy script, I keep coming back to the parallels between the character of Saville and a character in the Irvine Welsh book Ecstasy.
 
I've not been following this in huge detail (because I find it too difficult). But is there anything that explains how he went about getting a free flat at Stoke Mandeville Hospital? How did that conversation go? "If I raise money for the children's ward, can I have a bedroom there?"

I can't get my head around why that was given the OK, even in a different era. Wouldn't the first question be "why?"? And even if everyone's either stupid or part of a paedo ring, what about costs? How is it cost effective to use resources on permanent accommodation for a visiting celebrity? What the fuck was going on?
 
I guess it might have been part of his conditions of donating such massive amounts of cash? Maybe he paid for it? He probably argued that it was the only way he could do his hospital porter duties or something
 
trashpony said:
I guess it might have been part of his conditions of donating such massive amounts of cash? Maybe he paid for it? He probably argued that it was the only way he could do his hospital porter duties or something
Click to expand...
Did he donate the cash, or help raise it? What I've read suggests the latter, but the details are hazy.
 
trashpony said:
I don't really know either.
Click to expand...
OK, cheers.

Either way, though, surely someone queried the condition? "What, you won't raise/donate the money if we don't provide a suite for you on site?" Why was that not seen as strange and unusual? Even for a regular "volunteer porter". Even just on resource grounds, if nothing else.
 
danny la rouge said:
I've not been following this in huge detail (because I find it too difficult). But is there anything that explains how he went about getting a free flat at Stoke Mandeville Hospital? How did that conversation go? "If I raise money for the children's ward, can I have a bedroom there?"

I can't get my head around why that was given the OK, even in a different era. Wouldn't the first question be "why?"? And even if everyone's either stupid or part of a paedo ring, what about costs? How is it cost effective to use resources on permanent accommodation for a visiting celebrity? What the fuck was going on?
Click to expand...

Most of the hospital would have been wound down under the cuts of the 1970s. He managed to convince his friend Prince Charles to bring Diana at the height of world media attention to a fundraising events at the Hospital, ensuring it had a steady stream of royalist donators.
As I understood it he was a cash cow that had to be kept happy. Presumably the longer it went on, the worse it became, if we expose it now, questions will be asked etc.
 
Ah, he was a "volunteer porter"? Wasn't even aware of that. Well, I suppose that at least suggests how the conversation came about, and what his 'legitimate' angle might have been.
 
In hindsight the necrophilia rumours & jokes rather distracted from his activities with the living.

Personally I'd not really heard them till recently, and at the time the Theroux documentary left me more focussed on his threatening, domineering personality and the hefty ego he brought with him to charity events, although his dodgy caravan was briefly on the radar too. It was only when he died and someone posted the Nolan sister clip that I started to assume some bad stuff would come out, and frankly it took longer than I thought it would.
 
Not sure if this has been posted yet:
Stoke Mandeville hospital is under pressure to set up an inquiry after it was claimed that nurses knew Sir Jimmy Savile went on “ward rounds” to find young patients to abuse. Staff at the Buckinghamshire hospital were said to have told girls on the children’s ward to “pretend to be asleep” during his visits.
Click to expand...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-Mandeville-to-find-young-girls-to-abuse.html

There is a campaign on Twitter to dig up his grave - follow the hashtag #DigUpSavile !
 
elbows said:
It was only when he died and someone posted the Nolan sister clip that I started to assume some bad stuff would come out, and frankly it took longer than I thought it would.
Click to expand...
It has been rather odd with this all coming out now. My flatmate asked the other day if I was surprised about the stories, and I replied "no, I read similar stuff on u75 as soon as he died". Sometimes forget that u75 has its own little bubble sometimes and the rest of the world doesn't read it quite as much as some of us :oops:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Pickman's model
Sir mark rowley's time is up
2
Replies
38
Views
2K
GarveyLives
G
blossie33
Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked to the UK as a child
2
Replies
39
Views
2K
Lord Camomile
Lord Camomile
Jeff Robinson
Thread to document institutional animal abuse
2
Replies
52
Views
2K
bcuster
bcuster
Pickman's model
sir stephen house's time is up
Replies
5
Views
570
GarveyLives
G
T & P
Arise Sir Tony (Blair)
9 10 11 12 13
Replies
367
Views
13K
gosub
gosub
Back
Top Bottom