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Arise Sir Tony (Blair)
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
No, he’s a very naughty boy.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
“Otherwise” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
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Starry Wisdom
You've not posted any novel content so don't puff yourself up
Gramsci
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Boris Johnson has not ‘earned’ a knighthood – Sir Keir Starmer
The Labour leader also defended Sir Tony Blair’s knighthood.
www.standard.co.uk
Starmer has decided Boris Johnson does not deserve a knighthood. But Blair does.
This Knighthood for Blair has reminded me of what he did over Iraq. As have some posters here have reminded me of for example of complicity of Blair government in rendition and torture. In news Chilcot enquiry findings were in press again.
Starmer moving the party to the right depends on seeing Blair as one of the great PMs along with Wilson and Atlee. Why he was so politically partisan over Knighthoods. For an avowed centrist it shows how the so called centre is anything such.
Wilson refused to send British troops to Vietnam despite a lot of US pressure BTW.
Whilst Boris handling on the pandemic is to be questioned he didn't start a war based on lies and misleading parliament.
I'm actually glad the knighthood has come up as this Third Way centrist non "extremist" politics is back in vogue. This all questions it again.
Steel Icarus
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If we're going to have them...
I don't get the petition preventing him getting a knighthood. Isn't it the mark of a cunt? He deserves it.
8ball
El Cortaro
We've been through this, but no one has changed sides based on this info afaik.
Fair dos I've come in late. Seems odd then for the left to debate who should or shouldn't be given knighthoods.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Congratulations to Sir Tony Blair. Future generations of Kosovan kids are going to be named Sirtoni Bluh now.
Gramsci
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Tony Blair advises Kazakh president on publicity after killing of protesters
Former British PM criticised for suggesting strategy following Zhanaozen incident in which police shot dead 15 civilians
Blair made big money advising dictators in his post PM career.
I used to regularly cycle by his house in Connaught Square. Big house with two armed policemen outside all the time. What I didn't understand was how he could be given armed police 24/7 after leaving politics.
See the petition has now gone over one million.
SpookyFrank
Float like a caterpillar, sting like a tree
Fucks sake I was gonna post something on the Kazakhstan thread about how they should phone Blair up for some PR tips. As a joke. And then before I get the chance it fucking happens in real life. What an unspeakable piece of shit he is.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
All former PMs receive lifelong protection.
Gramsci
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To make it clear the link was from 2014. Not the present.
Blairs Third Way politics see that trying to influence dictators like this is fine. Hasn't been successful.
Gramsci
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To the extent that he does? Two armed police at the front of his house and armed police at the back of the house. 24/7.
Is this normal for all ex PMs?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I believe so, if they want it.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
So not all then.
Imo he being a possible target for terrorist attack is his fault and now he is not PM he should not have costly security he has.
There should be a limit on it for ex PMs. A time limit after which they should be treated like any ordinary citizen.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
How long would you suggest?
All ex-PMs will be targets for someone. You don't like Blair, but someone else won't like someone you do like.
Either protect them properly or don't bother at all.
I saw Bill Clinton walking along the road in Oxford once (after he'd left the White House). I wouldn't have actually noticed him tbh if it hadn't been for the secret service people with him (you tend to notice a load of young, very fit guys in dark suits with earpieces a lot more than a middle-aged guy wandering about with his daughter). A bit surreal really.
Gramsci
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I'd say a couple of years and then your on your own. Like the rest of Joe Public. Seems fair enough to me.
I've been working around City and West End around times when their have been terrorist attacks. I've been OK and no one I know has been hurt.
These are innocent people who've been caught up in this.
Blair whether I like him or not policies increased threat of terrorism. He was warned about this.
So, and this isn't about what I think of him personally, once he's no longer been PM for several years should have same chances as rest of us.. Who have to go about our daily lives in Central London and didn't start wars.
Perhaps if this was the case members of political elites like him might think twice about it.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
But all of this pre-supposes that the only people who would want to kill ex-PMs are Islamic terrorists. In reality there'll be loads of other loons out there who'd attack them for any number of reasons given the chance. Had Corbyn ever made PM there would have been some other flavour of nutjob gunning for him in his dotage.
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It's been successful in making Blair a shit ton of money, which is all the grinning sociopathic cunt ever cared about anyway.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
I used to know a guy on Thatcher's protection squad not long before she died, he hated her. Still recognised that she had a right to protection though.
SpookyFrank
Float like a caterpillar, sting like a tree
Why? We none of us had a right to protection from Thatcher.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You can't help feeling that they'd be less willing to undertake class-war against their own compatriots if protection weren't guaranteed.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
That's not the way things work though is it?
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Over a million now
Sign the Petition
Tony Blair to have his "Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter" rescindedwww.change.org
Glad I signed it just to wind up Starmer who reckons Blair deserves it. Hope it makes a million. Been getting more into the news. As Starmer is trying to resurrect sensible centrist Blairism its good to see him try to justify Blair. This isn't what he wanted.
Of course, the knighthood won't be rescinded, but it's the message the petition sends that is important.
Fuck him and his 'interventions'.
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