The ongoing stupidity of Home Secretary Priti Patel

[equationgirl]

when your asking questions like does a sniper rifle need a night sight? your really in the wrong meeting
MoD tried to save a £1 a rifle by buying mild steel cleaning rods that bend and are shit instead of the stainless steel ones that dont bend.
Accuracy international maker of very very expensive rifles Accuracy International when you need somebody dead with artisan precision and their too far away to stab with a saber. may have given up listening to the man from the MoD and just shipped the rifles with the Kit they usually supply because they realized they were dealing with idiots

I hope they applied an idiot premium. We deserved it.

Fucks sake, even I know a sniper rifle would need a night sight.

 

[8ball]

Fucks sake, even I know a sniper rifle would need a night sight.

I like to wait til the morning for that sort of thing.

 

[stavros]

I was chatting to someone today without any Essex connections, and they were in agreement that Patel stood out as a nutter, even among this cabinet.

 

[brogdale]

Even taking into account her abject stupidity, the inclusion of this implicitly anti-semitic phrase in her key-note Conference speech, has got to be a huge error of judgement that will undermine their weaponisation.

 

[8ball]

Even taking into account her abject stupidity, the inclusion of this implicitly anti-semitic phrase in her key-note Conference speech, has got to be a huge error of judgement that will undermine their weaponisation.

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Is that not very plausibly deniable (unless I missed a trick somewhere - I assume this is just based on the reference to North London)?

 

[brogdale]

Is that not very plausibly deniable (unless I missed a trick somewhere)?

It's an established trope; favoured by the RW press when casting Miliband etc. as the 'other'.

 

[Teaboy]

Even taking into account her abject stupidity, the inclusion of this implicitly anti-semitic phrase in her key-note Conference speech, has got to be a huge error of judgement that will undermine their weaponisation.

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Looks more a reference to Islington, its an attack on Corbyn and those who vote for him. Didn't Patel try to give UK aid money to the IDF? Would be strange is she suddenly started out with the antisemitism. I would have thought Islamophobia would be more her thing.

 

[8ball]

It's an established trope; favoured by the RW press when casting Miliband etc. as the 'other'.

I'm not good at trope spotting, didn't know Miliband was Jewish, either (I know his dad was a Lefty called Ralph, so it seems I should have known that too).

But if that was a deliberate dig then obviously she should be brought up on it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Is that not very plausibly deniable (unless I missed a trick somewhere - I assume this is just based on the reference to North London)?

The only plausible deniability about it is Patel's patent stupidity - sorry I did a racism, I'm so stupid I didn't realise.

Which is very plausible, tbf.

 

[brogdale]

Looks more a reference to Islington, its an attack on Corbyn and those who vote for him. Didn't Patel try to give UK aid money to the IDF? Would be strange is she suddenly started out with the antisemitism. I would have thought Islamophobia would be more her thing.

Yes, I wouldn't imagine an Israeli mole would intentionally use it as an antisemitic manner, but anti-semitic it certainly is.

 

[8ball]

The only plausible deniability about it is Patel's patent stupidity - sorry I did a racism, I'm so stupid I didn't realise.

Which is very plausible, tbf.

Not a comment on Patel (she's not high on the list of people I'd be happy inadvertently defending), but racists like coming up with tropes, and if you don't know many racists it's easy to miss some.

I always thought North London was just meant to be a bit posh, with more than its share of people who enjoyed weaving yogurt.

 

[brogdale]

Not a comment on Patel (she's not high on the list of people I'd be happy inadvertently defending), but racists like coming up with tropes, and if you don't know many racists it's easy to miss some.

I always thought North London was just meant to be a bit posh, with more than its share of people who enjoyed weaving yogurt.

All that was missing were the optional adjectives rootless and cosmopolitan

 

[JimW]

It's an established trope; favoured by the RW press when casting Miliband etc. as the 'other'.

The anti-Semitic trope was "cosmopolitan" rather than metropolitan I thought - "rootless..."

 

[agricola]

TBF its amazing that someone who was a director at Webber Shandwick, who is married to a marketing consultant, who is a Tory MP and who was born in Harrow can slate anyone for being a member of the North London elite.

 

[8ball]

TBF its amazing that someone who was a director at Webber Shandwick, who is married to a marketing consultant, who is a Tory MP and who was born in Harrow can slate anyone for being a member of the North London elite.

I also find it amazing that front-benchers (at the very least) don't get some kind of 'things to avoid saying' course at the beginning of their tenure. What are these SPADs paid for?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I also find it amazing that front-benchers (at the very least) don't get some kind of 'things to avoid saying' course at the beginning of their tenure. What are these SPADs paid for?

I suspect much of their job involves damage control every time one of their fuckwit charges opens their mouth in public. Giving them a list of stuff not to do would be like telling a small child to stay away from the big bag of sweets that's in this cupboard here look.

 

[Proper Tidy]

The thing about using racist tropes is that it doesn't have to be intentional. In many ways it doesn't really matter. Because it's a racist trope.

 

[brogdale]

The thing about using racist tropes is that it doesn't have to be intentional. In many ways it doesn't really matter. Because it's a racist trope.

Yep.

 

[Pickman's model]

I also find it amazing that front-benchers (at the very least) don't get some kind of 'things to avoid saying' course at the beginning of their tenure. What are these SPADs paid for?

Sitting about at Dominic Cummings' pleasure

 

[Pickman's model]

TBF its amazing that someone who was a director at Webber Shandwick, who is married to a marketing consultant, who is a Tory MP and who was born in Harrow can slate anyone for being a member of the North London elite.

They are a member of the nle's bitter rivals, the nwle

 

[8ball]

The thing about using racist tropes is that it doesn't have to be intentional. In many ways it doesn't really matter. Because it's a racist trope.

Ah, so she's bang to rights either way.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Even if it's not racist what is is divisive and dismissive and she knows exactly what she's saying with it.

Rallying against socialism, pretending that of course she has the working class interests at heart and that only childish privileged uni style kids are members of this elite.

 

[8ball]

Even if it's not racist what is is divisive and dismissive and she knows exactly what she's saying with it.

Rallying against socialism, pretending that of course she has the working class interests at heart and that only childish privileged uni style kids are members of this elite.

I don't know the background to the quote (ie. who she was talking about and what they were saying about her).
I expect being a child of immigrants and having ultra-Tory (scorched earth version) views plays well with a portion of the Tory membership, though.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Even taking into account her abject stupidity, the inclusion of this implicitly anti-semitic phrase in her key-note Conference speech, has got to be a huge error of judgement that will undermine their weaponisation.

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What about the South London liberal metropolitan elite?

 

[brogdale]

What about the South London liberal metropolitan elite?

What about it?

 

[8ball]

What about it?

I don’t think that was aimed at you specifically.

 

[Sasaferrato]

She certainly is, with her perpetual sneer.

Rather a pity that freedom of movement was extended to her parents.

 

[weltweit]

She seems so pleased with herself ending freedom of movement. I love freedom of movement.

 

[andysays]

Rather a pity that freedom of movement was extended to her parents.

Oh dear, sometimes you just can't help yourself, can you...

 

[Proper Tidy]

Rather a pity that freedom of movement was extended to her parents.

Christ