The New Tories - Ruthlessly Incompetent. Post Examples of Tory Stupidity Here

[ruffneck23]

no

 

[elbows]

Yeah, they decided to leave it alone for 2 years and do a consultation, so expect it to change eventually.

 

[scifisam]

Environment Secretary confirms sentience of animals will continue to be recognised and protections strengthened when we leave the EU - GOV.UK

That's a lie, though. It doesn't apply to wild animals or to imports so doesn't cover everything the EU regs covered.

 

[gosub]

That's a lie, though. It doesn't apply to wild animals or to imports so doesn't cover everything the EU regs covered.

I'd like think of it as more of a uturn. What the whole thing wasn't though, as Paul Staines keeps claiming is 'fake news'

I would have thought an imported animal is 'under control', as are lab animals contrary to compassion on world farming's latest release. But yep wild animals just got loopholed

 

[gosub]

That's a lie, though. It doesn't apply to wild animals or to imports so doesn't cover everything the EU regs covered.

Also halal and kosher slaughter houses have lost their loophole.

 

[gosub]

EU needs to 'back off' or 'move on'
The former Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith has suggested the UK should walk away from the Brexit negotiations if the European Union does not change its position.

 

[existentialist]

EU needs to 'back off' or 'move on'
The former Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith has suggested the UK should walk away from the Brexit negotiations if the European Union does not change its position.

A man well known for his finesse of judgement and aplomb of decision-making. I can't think why nobody's paying any attention to him

 

[gosub]

A man well known for his finesse of judgement and aplomb of decision-making. I can't think why nobody's paying any attention to him

He blamed the entire Irish "situation" on the forthcoming Irish Presidental elections, forthcoming in that they happen after we've left, and so fiercely contested there's even talk of Michael Higgins being unopposed (he won't be, but Higgins is in no danger of missing out on his free rugby tickets)

 

[Ground Elder]

Yes that'll be it Philip, all those disabled people getting under the feet of productive workers

Philip Hammond:UK Productivity Rates Low Because More Disabled People Are In Work

 

[Streathamite]

I think David Davis actually broke the all time global record for stupidity in front of the Brexit select committee today.

 

[Streathamite]

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He blamed the entire Irish "situation" on the forthcoming Irish Presidental elections, forthcoming in that they happen after we've left, and so fiercely contested there's even talk of Michael Higgins being unopposed (he won't be, but Higgins is in no danger of missing out on his free rugby tickets)

I must admit I have a wee soft spot for Higgins. A civilised sort of chap
IS, on the other hand, has a HUGE soft spot. Unfortunately, it fills his entire cranial cavity.
As a LB Waltham Forest resident, I've had a fair few dealings with him over the years. And every encounter has left me astonished at how a man that stupendously thick Could rise as high as he did.
Stella Creasey is a conniving skunk, but intellectually she's light years ahead of him

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yes that'll be it Philip, all those disabled people getting under the feet of productive workers

Philip Hammond:UK Productivity Rates Low Because More Disabled People Are In Work

UK prouctivity has been for shit since long before ATOS assesments and ESA. Plus all the other obvious problems with this idiotic statement.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The new defence secretary Insert Name Here has come out of the blocks strongly by stating that no British citizens who fight for Daesh should be allowed back into the UK. Even though there is no basis in international law for preventing your citizens from entering their own country. If anything getting drones or spooks to murder them would be more legal than turning them away at the border, and less likely to cause diplomatic beef with whichever country they're currently in. This probably explains the idiotic statement that 'every last one' will be killed.

'Dead jihadists can't harm UK' - minister

 

[DotCommunist]

I see williamson is openly masturbating when saying british ISIS fighter should be hunted down and killed. 'Like rabid dogs' he didn't add but wanted to.
I've no love for daesh and this isn't a spiral thing but he comes off as a fat man playing COD

 

[DotCommunist]

oh snap

 

[Libertad]

Isn't this incitement to murder? Not that Williamson gives a fuck.

 

[DotCommunist]

Isn't this incitement to murder? Not that Williamson gives a fuck.

nah he's talking about getting it done 'in the field' and as all vietnam films have taught me 'what happens in the field stays in the field man' except when it doesn't and someone as to own up for mai lai

 

[Teaboy]

The new defence secretary Insert Name Here has come out of the blocks strongly by stating that no British citizens who fight for Daesh should be allowed back into the country. Even though there is no basis in international law for preventing your citizens from entering their own country. If anything getting drones or spooks to murder them would be more legal than turning them away at the border, and less likely to cause diplomatic beef with whichever country they're currently in. This probably explains the idiotic statement that 'every last one' will be killed.

'Dead jihadists can't harm UK' - minister

Empty meaningless words. As you say there really isn't much they can do, what does he propose? Pulling them aside at Heathrow immigration and then headshots in a side room?

When Daesh were cornered in Raqqa (with many foreign fighters) a deal was cut so they could escape.

 

[SpookyFrank]

nah he's talking about getting it done 'in the field' and as all vietnam films have taught me 'what happens in the field stays in the field man' except when it doesn't and someone as to own up for mai lai

I thought the official position was that we had nobody 'in the field' fighting Daesh?

 

[scifisam]

nah he's talking about getting it done 'in the field' and as all vietnam films have taught me 'what happens in the field stays in the field man' except when it doesn't and someone as to own up for mai lai

Bloke on R4 today reckoned it was very close to encouraging war crimes.

Trying to track down British Jihabis doesn't exactly strike me as the best use of military resources really. I bet some apologist is going to claim he's really just saying British Jihadis shouldn't expect British forces to go easy on them, but that's not what he said.

Not letting people back is a stupid suggestion too. I mean, I don't particularly want them back in either but what else are we going to do? No other country's going to want them either.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

 

[Lorca]

MP under fire for attempt to claim charity donation on expenses | Worcester News

not so much incompetence as plain old tory greed - a local mp, Harriet Baldwin tried to claim a £50 ticket donation to a local charity back on expenses. Article goes on to state she has also claimed £1.1 million on expenses since she became an MP in 2010!!! ker-ching!

 

[Nylock]

Grasping Malvern Tory from the top of the hill in 'Grasping Malvern Tory' shocker!

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Jeremy "Hunt" has retweeted this Scum journo to prove record investment in healthcare. He's not wrong

 

[Kaka Tim]

the graph actually shows that health spending essentially flatlines under the tories and that it steadily increases under labour. NHS spending has to outpace inflation because of the cost of new medical treatments and changing demographics - not doing this is exactly why people are dieing in fucking corridors.

 

[alex_]

the graph actually shows that health spending essentially flatlines under the tories and that it steadily increases under labour. NHS spending has to outpace inflation because of the cost of new medical treatments and changing demographics - not doing this is exactly why people are dieing in fucking corridors.

The graph above is adjusted for inflation.

Alex

 

[Kaka Tim]

The graph above is adjusted for inflation.

Alex

I know. and it shows that tory spending remains essentially static whilst labour spending on the NHS increases. The NHS budget has to increase over and above the rate of inflation or the service goes to shit. just like now and under the last tory government.

 

[Kaka Tim]

its more meaningful to look at health spending as percentage of GDP - and that has gone down under the tories.

 

[Streathamite]

It also must be remembered that
a) The Tories blew £3bn on an entirely pointless reorganisation, under the Health & Social Care Act of 2012
b) Thanks to that same Act, a much greater proportion of NHS money ends up in the grasping paws of private providers
b) The swingeing cuts to social care budgets inevitably push up demand on the NHS
b) so does our unbalanced age-demographic, 'baby boomer' problem'

 

[Dogsauce]

The graph above is adjusted for inflation.

Alex

Not adjusted for population, is it? That's kind of significant. Should be shown on a per capita basis to be representative.

Plus you really need to see total figures for health and social care, as local authority provided services have had huge cuts and the NHS has had to pick up some of the demand.