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Zabo said:
Great to see the ultra right wing lunatics haven't wasted time.

"Commenting on Ed Miliband's attack on Lord Freud's comments about the disabled, Research Director of the Adam Smith Institute, Sam Bowman, said:

"Lord Freud has been shamefully mistreated by Ed Miliband. His point was that the market value of some people’s wages is below the minimum wage. This is often true of the severely disabled and can have appalling consequences for their self-esteem and quality of life. Fixing this problem was the justification for Remploy, a government-funded firm that gave jobs to disabled people who could not find work elsewhere.

"To point out that someone’s market value is less than minimum wage has nothing to do with their moral value as human beings. Freud’s point was that we should help people in this situation by allowing them to find jobs paying below the minimum wage and topping up their pay directly to make up the difference.

"Even if you don’t agree with this method, it is motivated by compassion for the disabled and an understanding of the unpleasant side-effects of our minimum wage laws. Freud’s only crime was to speak bluntly: it is disgraceful to use his words against him in the way Miliband has."

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/arti...libands_attack_on_lord_freud_is_shameful.html
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There is nothing about this that doesn't make me sick to my core. Including the cunt that also joined in defending Freud by saying he had a 'mentally damaged' constituent who also should be paid fuck all - if only those vile lefties would let him be paid a fucking pittance. Good for Milibland for at least having a pop and getting under Cameron's skin (as was reported).
 
The whole point of a "minimum wage" is that we don't pay under it, because it is, by definition, the minimum. Also, if they're not being paid enough to live on, it'll have to be topped up by benefits, which I thought was bad?
 
Zabo said:
Great to see the ultra right wing lunatics haven't wasted time.

"Commenting on Ed Miliband's attack on Lord Freud's comments about the disabled, Research Director of the Adam Smith Institute, Sam Bowman, said:

"Lord Freud has been shamefully mistreated by Ed Miliband. His point was that the market value of some people’s wages is below the minimum wage. This is often true of the severely disabled and can have appalling consequences for their self-esteem and quality of life. Fixing this problem was the justification for Remploy, a government-funded firm that gave jobs to disabled people who could not find work elsewhere.

"To point out that someone’s market value is less than minimum wage has nothing to do with their moral value as human beings. Freud’s point was that we should help people in this situation by allowing them to find jobs paying below the minimum wage and topping up their pay directly to make up the difference.

"Even if you don’t agree with this method, it is motivated by compassion for the disabled and an understanding of the unpleasant side-effects of our minimum wage laws. Freud’s only crime was to speak bluntly: it is disgraceful to use his words against him in the way Miliband has."

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/arti...libands_attack_on_lord_freud_is_shameful.html
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Not really making it better, are they?
 
Jollity Farm said:
The whole point of a "minimum wage" is that we don't pay under it, because it is, by definition, the minimum. Also, if they're not being paid enough to live on, it'll have to be topped up by benefits, which I thought was bad?
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It still will be.

They will still be viewed as a burden, as scroungers precisely because they will have to get their money topped up - which won't preclude them being able or having to claim other benefits as well. If you are working less hours you might also need tax credits as well as the hourly top up (which you can be sure will be cut down the line if IDS and his crew get back in).

The Tories must be stopped. There is no greater priority now (and yes I'm sure there are a a few labour scum who think the same about the disaled).

It's utterly ridiculous that emplouyers are allowed to moan about 'difficult' employees on whom they are taking a 'risk' while expecting other employers (through the tax system) to subsidise their staff.

This idea also sits alongside the Tories love of workfare which isn't far removed at all.

And who decides the worth of an employee? Where is that decision made? Noone's 'productivity' is equal to everyone else's. If someone works to the best of their abaility - and you have hired them in the first place - then pay them the same as everyone else. Either they can or they can't do the job. Again, as with workfare, it's this grey area they wish to exploit.
 
Gingerman said:
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....according_to_Shipley_MP_Philip_Davies/?ref=mr
Fucking ignorant fool,got a face made for punching......
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What a tool.

However...reading that reminded me of an old Head of Science (ex) colleague of mine who once told me he was off to teach a "P&C" lesson. Naively I was lured in, and enquired when he had started teaching combined Physics and Chemistry lessons...he said "...worse than that, I've got to take some Bio, and its pricks and cunts today.":D
 
Davies is a professional asshole. Doesn't have a massive majority, but may survive because he's a big enough prick that UKIP won't bother standing against him.
 
Dogsauce said:
Davies is a professional asshole. Doesn't have a massive majority, but may survive because he's a big enough prick that UKIP won't bother standing against him.
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His old man was elected mayor of Doncaster for the English Democrat party in 2009,fucking apple did'nt fall very far from that tree,also shacked up with fellow Tory loon Fester MacVey.......
 
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Great little nugget of tory (twitter) incompetence here from Croydon Centrale's very own Gavlar Barfwell and his new year message to the world...and a very amusing reply from Ashcroft.

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:D
 
Talk about using that canine whistle...they must be concerned about merely holding the core vote intact.

The Conservatives provoked a major row with the trade unions oversweeping plans to ban them from taking strike action without the support of at least 40 per cent of their members.

In an article for The Telegraph, Patrick McLoughlin, announced the proposed crackdown on industrial action, which will be included in the Tory election manifesto, in order to stop union bosses holding Britain “to ransom”.
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Apart from describing the Green's policies as 'ultra left", this article by David Herdson shows just how dumb Cameron has been wrt the TV debates....boxed himself into a 'no win' corner...

So unless the Greens are invited, that leaves Cameron with a dilemma. Will they be? Almost certainly not. OfCom’s judgement is sound: despite the Greens’ recent uptick in the polls, their behaviour and performance this parliament has not been that of a major party. Of the 19 GB Westminster by-elections, they’ve not contested seven and lost their deposit in the other twelve. They may be a factor in a handful of seats but then so will the SNP and others, who would undoubtedly challenge an invite to Natalie Bennett and not to them. Furthermore, less is more when it comes to debates: the TV companies won’t want crowded stages and stifled discussion.

If that scenario does come to pass – and there’s every chance it will – then Cameron will have to decide between performing a U-turn and participating after all, which will look weak and indecisive, and standing by his decision, which will allow Miliband, Farage and Clegg to paint their own portrait of him and the Conservatives without a right of reply. Oops.
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The statement released when he joined was so blatantly written by some party PR goon, containing all the chosen phrases the party wanted the public to hear, that it's no surprise his own words are held back lest they contradict anything said (not that he comes across as someone with convictions). It's so transparent it's practically insulting, and I can't see it harming UKIP in the slightest.

Had he joined Labour the situation would be no different, I don't think any of the major parties really get this, do they? Hence the rise of marginal parties that at least speak like human beings some of the time.
 
https://euobserver.com/social/123066
Two million British people emigrated to EU, figures show
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A bit of insight into the Tories' considered view of immigration
But Mark Field, a Conservative MP, told the newspaper: “These [figures] are not like for like: Lots of Brits abroad are successful people living in second homes in Spain or France. Most Brits living abroad are not aggressive beggars or sleeping rough on the streets.”
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Tory minister criticises 'inhuman inflexibility' in benefit sanctions

Business minister Nick Boles says system needs to be looked at after election, despite colleagues’ defence of sanctions

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ister-inhuman-inflexibility-benefit-sanctions
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Well I never, the order out of chaos proponent Tory MP Nick Boles criticises(sort of) benefit sanctions,

election coming?

Oh, and I wonder if has got wind of the UN Human Rights Report on UK Welfare due after the election.
 
Government loses vote over new election system for speaker

From the Graun live feed:

It is, in many ways, a point of very particular and arcane Commons procedure. But make no mistake, the government will be smarting over this. Someone – most fingers point to Michael Gove in the whips’ office - had hoped their clever ruse to help unseat John Bercow would send Tory MPs off to fight the election on a high. Instead the government is left looking both “grubby “ - the most commonly-used adjective of the debate – and inept. Many MPs agreed the Speaker should be elected by secret ballot. But they did not like this change being pushed through on no notice as a clear assault on Bercow.
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Heheheheheh. :cool:
 
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