The DUP, eh? Welcome to your new lizard overlords

[DexterTCN]

Ha !! Unionists getting mightily pissed off at their treatment by the English media . Denouncing it as racism . Linking it..with a straight face..to the anti Irish punch cartoons of the Victorian era..when they promote the very same shit themselves as their raison detre....chiding the English for their lack of tolerance etc .

Lampooning English Press cartoonists should really learn where to draw the line - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk...

I had an appointment with a surgeon at the Royal Victoria Hospital last week. An erudite man and an Alliance voter, he asked me if the negative racial stereotyping of Ulster Protestants in the English 'quality' Press was annoying me as much as it was him. I confirmed my assent but explained that it should surprise no-one.

That's some...well....I don't know what it is but that is certainly some of it. My first thought was Harry Enfield tbh.

 

[ruffneck23]

If they can't take the heat they should get the fuck out , what do they expect ?

 

[DotCommunist]

c'mon man, they should expect not to be lampooned as violent drunks as a people. By all means lets rip the DUP for what they are but I can't endorse the right polishing off all their anti-irish shit they've been doing since forever. Have to be better than that

 

[ruffneck23]

I was talking about the DUP , to be honest I'm tired and didn't read the article fully

 

[Casually Red]

This is an Irish cartoon mocking their pro brexit advertising campaign in London, suspected by many to have been funded by the Saudi secret service .

Currently my favourite .

 

[Casually Red]

That's some...well....I don't know what it is but that is certainly some of it. My first thought was Harry Enfield tbh.

This is the hate mongering twat here in his sash . Take a look at who he's standing with ...and the hate and fears hes whipping up..and you'll see the English press have hit the nail on the head for once .



A group of people who habitually ..routinely ..mock the mass starvation suffered by the Irish people during the Victorian era now wrapping the mantle of that very victim hood around themselves . He's shameless .
The DUPs MPs were returned by the active assistance of loyalist paramilitaries and the thugs and bigots of the orange order . That's who registered the voters and returned their mandate for them . They're in political hock to them . Press depictions of the DUP as loyalist thugs are totally spot on in this instance . The DUP are a political front for them .

 

[LiamO]

Airstrikes on XMG would have been welcome.

Really? you would happily murder these little children? For shame, you village idiot.



St Patrick's Crossmaglen

 

[Celyn]

Ha !! Unionists getting mightily pissed off at their treatment by the English media ...

... It seems that the chattering classes of today, like the landladies of the past, have a resolute position. Where the government is concerned, they can attract support from the Welsh or the Scots, but no Irish need apply ...

But I thought they did not think of themselves as Irish. I thought part of the thing they often shout about is "We're British" (in a loud Ian Paisley voice).

 

[Poi E]

Tories likely to get tired of kissing the lizards according to Finton O'Toole

Fintan O’Toole: DUP’s crush on Britain will end badly

 

[William of Walworth]

Lots here by Ian Cobain in yesterday's Guardian about DUP/'loyalist' paramilitary links (as in ties that bind). I expect most knowledgeables on this thread know most of it, but it might include a few new details?

Troubled past : the paramilitary connection that still haunts the DUP

 

[William of Walworth]

Tories likely to get tired of kissing the lizards according to Finton O'Toole

Fintan O’Toole: DUP’s crush on Britain will end badly

That's a superbly written article!

But does it notice that, even as the Tory party clasps it to its bosom, the lack of enthusiasm would be scarcely less evident if the Tories were wearing rubber gloves and surgical masks? They are not swooning with love, they are fainting with revulsion. The DUP may think it is coming home; most Tories think the mad woman has come out of the attic of an old hyper-Protestant British identity and is sitting in the parlour demanding tea and scones with lots of jam and a bucket of clotted cream. She has to be humoured for now, but only until there is some way to get rid of her.

 

[Poi E]

Disunited Kingdom dawns on UUP fellow

Lampooning English Press cartoonists should really learn where to draw the line - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

 

[CrabbedOne]

Tories likely to get tired of kissing the lizards according to Finton O'Toole

Fintan O’Toole: DUP’s crush on Britain will end badly

At this point the expectations of DUP voters are very high. Arlene has the whip hand and will be expected to use it. Somebody on Slugger a while back was saying the danger was more that in cuddling up to the Tories the DUP would eventually piss off its own base. This could come true if there was any backsliding on austerity in the 6C or "them-uns" getting too much of the pie. There's a great deal of talk of loyalty but the English are more often cast as the great betrayer by Ulster Prods. I recall the incandescent rage at Thatcher over what became the GFA. People literally had heart attacks. The DUP are not the Lib-Dems easily blindsided in coalition which is probably the model No 10 has in mind. The Tories are in hock to a very transactional party with a very transactional base that is fast to form angry mobs. It's quite unlike bland English politics.

 

[Poi E]

And they're against the wall, demographically and educationally. The future ain't bright and it ain't orange.

 

[CrabbedOne]

On Slugger The £400m for Infrastructure in the Conservative-DUP agreement will only exacerbate Northern Ireland’s east-west divide

...
This imbalance in transport provision is about much more than travel options, as it also influences our economy and population. Put simply – people, businesses and jobs tend to gravitate towards areas where transport infrastructure is good in preference to areas where it is substandard. Our east-west transport divide is reflected in the regional economic and population imbalance that Northern Ireland also faces. And this in-turn has a self-reinforcing dynamic, as areas with greater population and economic activity tend to justify greater transport investment. The west’s population would almost certainly be larger today if it hadn’t lost its railways in the 1960s (and/or if the promised motorways had actually been delivered). Given its poor infrastructure, the fact that over a quarter of Northern Ireland’s population still lives in the western half of the province is perhaps remarkable.
...

An explainer on N.I. infrastructure. The West is majority RC and poorer.

 

[DotCommunist]

just occurred to me that the party just given a billion are provably and recently dishonest and dodgy as fuck with money- let not all the other shit about them distract, with the cash for ash they've been literally shown to be shady fucks. Infrastructure eh.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Really? you would happily murder these little children? For shame, you village idiot.



St Patrick's Crossmaglen

XMG was inhabited by murdering fucking scum. At times so hot, we could only go in and out by helicopter. So, roll your pictures into a tight cylinder and stick them up your arse.

 

[Sasaferrato]

just occurred to me that the party just given a billion are provably and recently dishonest and dodgy as fuck with money- let not all the other shit about them distract, with the cash for ash they've been literally shown to be shady fucks. Infrastructure eh.

Simple incompetence I think, over the heating thing... maybe.

 

[Sasaferrato]

This is an Irish cartoon mocking their pro brexit advertising campaign in London, suspected by many to have been funded by the Saudi secret service .

Currently my favourite .

Except that this is beyond mockery. It is obscene. An example of the true character of the politician. It does not matter how vile another party is, if they can keep you in power, they are your new best friends.

I don't think anyone here was in any doubt about the character of politicians, but this really is the pits. One wonders if the other political party had been on par with the Nazis, would the coalition have gone ahead? I think it would.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Warning - a bit of a tangent here. Any Scottish Urbs (or anyone really, but Scottish is more likely) remember Pastor Jack Glass at all?

A cheery sort of chap. A wee bit from his obit in the Guardian might give you an idea of him:



(bolding mine)

Obituary: Pastor Jack Glass

I don't actually know why he wanted to hang Nelson Mandela, but I suppose he had a general purpose wish to kill most people really.

Oh, as I do with useless info, I ended up reading more of it:

a bit from his Wiki entry:
Jack Glass - Wikipedia

They're really great at that Christian charity and love thy neighbour thing.

On a brighter note, this notion of *might* just turn out to be a good idea. I mean, for the people of the six counties who prefer not to be anywhere near crazy mad orange marches, wouldn't it be great if you could go to the doctor and get signed off work for three days?

I had forgotten about Glass. A totally fundamentalist lunatic.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Celtic invasion is pure mythology

I beat you 4 -1 on quotes. Second leg next week?

 

[N_igma]

XMG was inhabited by murdering fucking scum. At times so hot, we could only go in and out by helicopter. So, roll your pictures into a tight cylinder and stick them up your arse.

'I know what we do with murdering fucking scum we become even bigger murdering fucking scum'

You should've stayed in Scotland where you belong you twat.

 

[Sasaferrato]

'I know what we do with murdering fucking scum we become even bigger murdering fucking scum'

You should've stayed in Scotland where you belong you twat.

Ah 'ad hom'. Why should I have expected anything else?

 

[Casually Red]

Except that this is beyond mockery. It is obscene. An example of the true character of the politician. It does not matter how vile another party is, if they can keep you in power, they are your new best friends.

I don't think anyone here was in any doubt about the character of politicians, but this really is the pits. One wonders if the other political party had been on par with the Nazis, would the coalition have gone ahead? I think it would.

A small part of me said surely the Tories wouldn't dare , in this day and age, to be seen openly in alliance with the DUP . Then may came out of no 10 and uttered the immortal words " conservative and unionist party " to the cameras and I burst into spontaneous laughter . I'd no doubt then what was about to happen . These guys are more extreme and more out there than the BNP in many ways . They're a byword for bigotry and extremism . Chronic habitual law breakers mired in all sorts . and they can be bought too . By anyone . The British government are going to need deep pockets being propped up by this mob .

It's worth rembering too they've already wasted more than Mays magic money tree bonanza through outright corruption, incompetence and graft . That's what's likely to happen with their new windfall . And then they'll be back for more . And it will be more than just money they're after .

 

[Sasaferrato]

At this point the expectations of DUP voters are very high. Arlene has the whip hand and will be expected to use it. Somebody on Slugger a while back was saying the danger was more that in cuddling up to the Tories the DUP would eventually piss off its own base. This could come true if there was any backsliding on austerity in the 6C or "them-uns" getting too much of the pie. There's a great deal of talk of loyalty but the English are more often cast as the great betrayer by Ulster Prods. I recall the incandescent rage at Thatcher over what became the GFA. People literally had heart attacks. The DUP are not the Lib-Dems easily blindsided in coalition which is probably the model No 10 has in mind. The Tories are in hock to a very transactional party with a very transactional base that is fast to form angry mobs. It's quite unlike bland English politics.

I don't see it lasting.

 

[Sasaferrato]

A small part of me said surely the Tories wouldn't dare , in this day and age, to be seen openly in alliance with the DUP . Then may came out of no 10 and uttered the immortal words " conservative and unionist party " to the cameras and I burst into spontaneous laughter . I'd no doubt then what was about to happen . These guys are more extreme and more out there than the BNP in many ways . They're a byword for bigotry and extremism . Chronic habitual law breakers mired in all sorts . and they can be bought too . By anyone . The British government are going to need deep pockets being propped up by this mob .

It's worth rembering too they've already wasted more than Mays magic money tree bonanza through outright corruption, incompetence and graft . That's what's likely to happen with their new windfall . And then they'll be back for more . And it will be more than just money they're after .

Like most people on this side of the water, I was aware of the DUP, in a vague sort of way. A minority party, and of little consequence over here.

That has changed big time. I've also done a bit of reading about what the DUP stand for, with increasing incredulity. They really are beyond parody, no parody could exceed the reality. I wonder if the majority of Tory MPs realise what they have got into bed with?

 

[eoin_k]

Ah 'ad hom'. Why should I have expected anything else?

Having just explicitly advocated mass murder of a civilian population including children, you're not doing a great job of maintaining the moral high ground.

 

[Casually Red]

Ah 'ad hom'. Why should I have expected anything else?

Why should you have expected anything else when you state the people in our district should be subject to the collective punishment of being liquidated by high explosive regardless of age , gender or combatant status ?

And you're criticising the DUP why ?

 

[planetgeli]

XMG was inhabited by murdering fucking scum. At times so hot, we could only go in and out by helicopter. So, roll your pictures into a tight cylinder and stick them up your arse.

And there was you just trying to deliver milk eh?

 

[chilango]

Ah 'ad hom'. Why should I have expected anything else?

Why should you deserve anything else?

Your post above regarding Crossmaglen is despicable.