The DUP, eh? Welcome to your new lizard overlords

[LiamO]

I would imagine there will be a great deal more in the british press about the rampant racism and triumphalism of the Marching/bonfire season this year.

Good. Finally the good people of Britain may see the neanderthal antics of those who wave their flag so enthusiastically. I don't doubt that millions will feel positively queasy about what is about to unfold.

And that's before the british press start poking about into Red Sky, Nama, RHI (cash for ash) and the Saudi money the DUP laundered to fund their Brexit ads in the british press.

 

[LiamO]

By my reading of this, the longer it goes on, the less likely it is that the Tories will feel they can offer anything at all. If they'd struck an agreement last week quickly and quietly, with some guarantee of some aspect of NI funding included, they might have got away with it, but not now, not post-Queen's speech. The tories have already ditched most of the shit the DUP were concerned about. They could, if they'd been smart, have presented this ditching as happening due to a process of consultation and listening that included listening to DUP concerns. Now, they cannot do that.

But they are not smart. Never have been. They just think they are.

Dragging their heels and saying 'NO!' has been their political leit motif since their formation.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

But they are not smart. Never have been. They just think they are.

Dragging their heels and saying 'NO!' has been their political leit motif since their formation.

There's a certain terrible beauty to the way they're going about this. As you say, they're way out of their depth, but they don't seem to realise yet, probably won't until they start drowning.

Not that I give a shit, but the tories are probably tearing their hair out. Who are these people?

 

[Teaboy]

tbh that's the bit that gives me the most hope. The more influence the DUP are seen to be having, the better. I want rid of these cunts, and sooner rather than later. And marching season is almost upon us... Let them have their moment of influence, and let it bring the whole edifice crashing down.

I hope you're right. I worry what damage will be caused in the meantime.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I hope you're right. I worry what damage will be caused in the meantime.

tbh if there were a serious threat to the peace process in NI, I don't see how the tories could do anything other than break contact with the DUP and struggle on without them.

And as liam says, shining a light on Unionist behaviour in NI might actually do some good.

 

[Poi E]

I would imagine there will be a great deal more in the british press about the rampant racism and triumphalism of the Marching/bonfire season this year.

Good. Finally the good people of Britain may see the neanderthal antics of those who wave their flag so enthusiastically. I don't doubt that millions will feel positively queasy about what is about to unfold.

And that's before the british press start poking about into Red Sky, Nama, RHI (cash for ash) and the Saudi money the DUP laundered to fund their Brexit ads in the british press.

I wouldn't count on the Tory press delving too deeply into the DUP's misdeeds, as I am sure some of the trails will cross paths with Tory knavery.

 

[moochedit]

Belfast council helped to store some pallets (that were probably stolen in the first place) and now they have been nicked again.

3,000 bonfire pallets stolen in raid on Belfast council depot - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Belfast council accused of 'handling stolen goods' for storing bonfire pallets

 

[J Ed]

Belfast council helped to store some pallets (that were probably stolen in the first place) and now they have been nicked again.

3,000 bonfire pallets stolen in raid on Belfast council depot - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Belfast council accused of 'handling stolen goods' for storing bonfire pallets

That's one of those things that you would struggle to explain to a visiting Martian.

 

[likesfish]

you'd be hard pressed to explain it in england or wales bits of scotland might understand

 

[J Ed]

you'd be hard pressed to explain it in england or wales bits of scotland might understand

I was talking to a woman from N Ireland who was absolutely furious that so many people in England were only just now learning about the very existence of the DUP and who can blame her? Ignorance about Loyalist paramilitarism in this country is a very wilful ignorance, at least on the part of our political and media class.

 

[brogdale]

I was talking to a woman from N Ireland who was absolutely furious that so many people in England were only just now learning about the very existence of the DUP and who can blame her? Ignorance about Loyalist paramilitarism in this country is a very wilful ignorance, at least on the part of our political and media class.

tbh, I think we should do all we can to encourage the DUP in the 300 safest vermin seats in E,W & S.

 

[DotCommunist]

I was talking to a woman from N Ireland who was absolutely furious that so many people in England were only just now learning about the very existence of the DUP and who can blame her? Ignorance about Loyalist paramilitarism in this country is a very wilful ignorance, at least on the part of our political and media class.

because of the collusion. 14th int were 'managing' them. Many factions here, within the state response as well

Gary Haggarty: Ex-senior loyalist pleads guilty to 200 terror charges - BBC News

He has also offered to give evidence against a number of former police officers he's accused of collusion while he was working as an informer from 1993 to 2004.

The BBC understands he told his interviewers that some of his Special Branch handlers not only protected him from arrest and prosecution, but also actively encouraged his activities.

Those allegations are the subject of a separate, parallel investigation by the Police Ombudsman.

 

[J Ed]

tbh, I think we should do all we can to encourage the DUP in the 300 safest vermin seats in E,W & S.

What do you mean?

 

[brogdale]

What do you mean?

I think they'd do quite well with Mail readers & split the vote.

 

[DexterTCN]

Set your faces to stunned.

Twelfth of July Orange walk to be televised live on BBC One in Northern Ireland

 

[DexterTCN]

Maybe it'll keep them off the streets

 

[LiamO]

Set your faces to stunned.

Twelfth of July Orange walk to be televised live on BBC One in Northern Ireland

It's televised Live every year. They even do a 45-minute 'Highlights' package later in case you missed it. #couldn't makeitup


Can't wait! OrangeFest is almost here!!

 

[DexterTCN]

what...fuckin hell. sorry

I was gonna do a joke.

 

[LiamO]

what...fuckin hell. sorry

I was gonna do a joke.

Sure go ahead. The whole thing is a fuckin joke

 

[DexterTCN]

Well first I was gonna say Channel 4 are showing Riverdance.

But then I thought of March of the Day.

 

[DexterTCN]

Irish tv and UK tv though, yeah?

 

[LiamO]

Irish tv and UK tv though, yeah?

BBC NI only. Your taxpayers licence money well spent?

Maybe it will be shown in Britain this year as part of the DUP/Tory mash-up?

 

[DexterTCN]

No sorry...I meant that in NI do they have both influences? UK and Irish tv-wise, not that both would show the march. Sorry....walk.

 

[DotCommunist]

BBC NI only. Your taxpayers licence money well spent?

Maybe it will be shown in Britain this year as part of the DUP/Tory mash-up?

glasto footage would make a pleasant compare/contrast I recon. Theres music at these marches isn't there? Jobs a goodun

 

[LiamO]

Stolen from a friend's FB

"The word 'Tory' used to describe a member of Conservatives is derived from Irish 'tóraidhe' meaning outlaw or plunderer of stolen cash. Spot on."

 

[LiamO]

 

[DexterTCN]

BBC NI only. Your taxpayers licence money well spent?...

btw no...I refuse to pay it

 

[LiamO]

btw no...I refuse to pay it

DexterTCN

Pay what, tax?

Who'd you think you are? Fuckin Google? Starbucks?

 

[Casually Red]

Well first I was gonna say Channel 4 are showing Riverdance.

But then I thought of March of the Day.

I think it's Fahrenheit 1690

 

[Sprocket.]

Stolen from a friend's FB

"The word 'Tory' used to describe a member of Conservatives is derived from Irish 'tóraidhe' meaning outlaw or plunderer of stolen cash. Spot on."

This is correct though nowadays I believe Tory is the word to describe the scum underneath the silt that lines the bottom of sewage settlement tanks.