The Dominic Cummings file
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Plastic Paddy
The reason for the trip to Barnard Castle for sure. Possibly the entire escapade.
Because he is a liar and self serving attention seeker cunt?
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
It turns out that driving to Barnard Castle doesn't just cure eyesight, it's also brilliant for your hindsight.
bimble
floofy
The one about how he thinks he did tell the PM about his plans but unfortunately neither of them have any recollection of that conversation which almost certainly probably happened, that was pretty good.
I prefer to drive to test my blood alcohol level. Coz that makes perfect sense.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It depends if people in general care though. Most people aren't interested in details and get bored easily. If there was clear evidence that he had been in contact with his parents, or that he or his wife knowingly had covid symptoms when they set off then I think that would be significant. The Barnard Castle thing will be of interest to those to want him gone, or damage to the government, for other reasons, but it'll be too vague a contravention for many to get too worked up about it I reckon.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
They did have covid symptoms!
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I'm assuming it's an attempt to counter suggestions he took it lightly, or that he was against lockdown? As well as giving the impression he's a genius who foresaw all this, of course.
Aladdin
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Ok, I've just read the transcript and I see that he isn't denying that they both thought they possibly had covid when they set off. That's a bit different to what I'd heard reported which was that his wife had symptoms but they weren't clearly Covid ones. Maybe that changes my opinion a little.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Lots I believe. We only hear about the big ones in the news but there'll be hundreds of others. There have been police spot-checks set up on the A5 at Kilburn every weekend that I have seen so there must be dozens of others.
Regardless of what everyone else has been up to, they're not senior government advisors who had a hand in making the very rules he's been breaking. "Do as I say, not as I do" is always a shit look for those in powerful positions.
Tell ‘em like it is reverend!
tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
He very pointedly said that she threw up but didn't have "coughing or a fever". But he then got coronavirus, in small building made of blocks, and his wife and child didn't get it but the child had to be taken to hospital after throwing up and having a fever. I'm pretty sure he himself also then threw up once he had recovered from Covid but I was getting a bit confused by that point.
He knows that if he said that she was coughing then that would be worse, so he very clearly said that wasn't the case.
It was pretty clear what he was doing.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
Same here did a few days of leaflet drop early on, since then have helped my immediate neighbours with some gardening and litter pick and making hand gel from meths and wasting my time on the internet !
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
We've had police checkpoints down here, preventing people heading to the coast, issuing tickets & turning them around. Mr.Bishie posted earlier that Sussex police had issued almost 700 tickets, I remember reading around 90% were to people from outside the two counties & city of Brighton & Hove.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I disagree. I think all of it would have been soon forgotten if he'd played it straight and fallen on his sword. Can you even remember the names of the other lockdown-breakers who've variously resigned? Of course, his is a bigger scalp for those who don't like him or the Tories, and they'd have made more of it for a while but it would still have fizzled out soon, enabling a quiet comeback perhaps next year. The silly lies have hugely magnified a situation that would otherwise have soon blown over, like you suggest.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
It's less pompous moralising about doing something more and more a weary (and wary) cynicism about the regular excitement about spectacles we have no control over and won't get anything out of.
Look, I'm angry at what Cummings did. I'm enjoying watching the shitshow, but the idea that we can win somehow?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Telegraph today.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
With Gove saying he also goes driving to check his eyesight, suddenly the C19 response is making more sense, as their approach to medical concerns seems to be "have a go and see how bad it gets".
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Yeah, this would be mighty handy. Keep idly thinking about drawing up a rough one, but then... well, not bothering
Yes, with the dates the rules changed. Someone's bound to do one.
In fact there are a few I think including: Dominic Cummings timeline: What we know of aide’s lockdown movements
Lying doggo just means lying low really. But definitely in his case lying
I don't think very many people here think we can 'win'. But brushing this off as purely a spectacle is wrong too - it lays bare some quite profound questions about the relationship between the governed and the government, and each twist of the story chips away at the moral authority of this government. In itself, not a fatal blow of course, and maybe in the long run insignificant - but also, maybe not.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
where's Rory Stewart when you need him ?
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
What would be handy is to also track when different claims were made; the Spectator article is an obvious anomaly, but I'm pretty sure the stories, or at least the details, coming from the government camp have changed as this has all come out.
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