bimble
floofy
If the daily mail and it’s readership turning against this government doesn’t count as a proper disaster for them then your standards are just too high I think.
The Dominic Cummings file
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Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I know these online petitions are generally just a bit of fun, but around 650,000 have now signed it.
I'm not a Tory, so it makes little difference to me whether he's sacked or not. Actually, in some ways, it's better if he sticks around, even for just a little bit longer. It's fun watching all the in-fighting on the right - it can only do the Tories a lot of damage.
I suspect the Mail's stance in this case is guided by it's readership, rather than the other way round. Expect we'll see some new polling numbers today or tomorrow and they are going to be horrific for Cummings.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
What's the depressing joke is the state of the left that can't do anything about it anyway, and that it's come to being fixated on this tbh.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
This is what the DM currently have at the top of their news page:
The DM will be included in the people now feeling like they made hasty judgements I reckon. They will quietly drop it.
bimble
floofy
Yep. Looks like they've shoved it way down their (online) front page today but the most popular comment under the cummings article there is still 'boris is weak'. I don't think he (the PM) will easily or quickly recover from the damage done in terms of his 'likeability', won't say trustworthiness because don't think people are that stupid.
See also 'presser' and 'double down', both of which people here* have very recently started bandying about.
* The UK.
Humberto
Justice is order
Think it's a gift tbh
Looks like the latter.
Edit: are those metal bins to the bottom left of the video thumbnail?
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
They need to put some clear blue water between themselves and the Guardian/Mirror axis of evil.
that said, I think unless there's anything new, the pressure for him to go of the last few days will likely fade this week - but the damage to the government will be significant and lasting.
ska invita
back on the other side
Woke up with the thought that the way Johnson has dealt with the Cummings scandal has equivalence with him throwing money at the restaurant owner having smashed the place up back in his Bullingdon days. Learning to be a reckless and self-entitled law unto yourself is what Bullingdon is for, its why it comes so naturally.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Are the Left fixated on this? I'm not even sure what you (or even I) mean by the Left right now. The Daily Mail (and other media) are fixated on this because it's doing untold damage to the Tories and that's what they care about. People in general are fixated on this because they have a stake (and therefore shouldn't the Left be following what the people are interested in?) and have stayed in their homes while elite twats think they can do what they like. Other than that some of us on 'the Left' are enjoying the best bit of schadenfreude in years.
And besides, Starmer is talking to the banks and fund managers. Everything is going to be alright.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying it as much as anyone on here. But we're powerless to do anything concrete about it. Strike? Riot? March on his house? Demand anything? All playing out in the realm of the media and discontent that can't really go anywhere. Whether he goes or stays won't really change anything.
And yeah 'fixated' wrong term to use planetgeli
Maybe I'm just feeling extra cynical this morning.
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what are you fixated on, that we can do something about?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It won’t bring down the government but I reckon there’s a while to run before this is chip-wrappings. I can’t see how Cummings can stay now. He’s painted himself into an absurd corner with the eye-test thing alone, and then there’s the rest of the bollocks. He’ll be ridiculed forever and he can’t back away from it without confirming that he’s been telling massive porkies. The golden rule of public bullshitting is to ensure at least an element of plausibility no matter how preposterous the story. He fucked that completely. The smart thing would’ve been to hold his hands up and apologise, fuck off for a bit, then get sneaked back in, a la Pritti Patel, but can’t see that happening now.
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Humberto
Justice is order
Keeping perspective like. Hope this rumbles on though.
bimble
floofy
That's why they messed this up so badly, thinking that as usual there would be no consequences to their actions when in fact (i think) this time there are. That presumption is what caused them to miscalculate and treat it like a standard political scandal which you can bluff your way though when it was actually a different fish.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
A few more junior ministers, or ideally ministers, resigning could be a real game changer.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Gove also has "driven on occasion to check my eyesight" apparently
He's so full of bullshit.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It has an element of plausibility for me. If I've gone from "this appears totally out of order" to "meh, maybe he broke the spirit of the guidance to some extent" then probably a lot of others have as well. Last night I spoke to some friends who I expected to be in outrage about the whole thing but they had kind of changed their minds following the statement. I get that there are people angry that they've not been able to visit ill/dying family members and so on, but the wind has been taken out of those sails by the fact that he had no contact with his family up there. Of course, if new evidence appears that he did, then that could change things. The 30 mile trip doesn't seem all that significant to me - lots of people have blatantly been going out for joyrides in their cars throughout this.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
If he drove 'half an hour' down the road from Durham to Barnard Castle on those roads how fast was the sick blind man going with his wife and child in the car?
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