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I wouldn't say its gone brilliantly but we are out of the EU and in a way where whatever happens to it can't be blamed on UK
The big urban poll: Do you think Brexit has gone well or badly?
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procrastinación
Go on then folks...
Why is the UK vaccine procurement scheme nothing to do with us leaving the EU? Seeing as initially anyway, no other country in the EU-27 persued this independently, but rather delegated power to the comission (at their suggestion).
And hey it's not me saying this and moaning it's people in some of the most pro EU countries in Europe like Spain and Portugal.
Why is the UK vaccine procurement scheme nothing to do with us leaving the EU? Seeing as initially anyway, no other country in the EU-27 persued this independently, but rather delegated power to the comission (at their suggestion).
And hey it's not me saying this and moaning it's people in some of the most pro EU countries in Europe like Spain and Portugal.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The following will be ignored in answers to your question:
Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier admits to EU vaccine rollout 'mistakes'
"The British took risks... the Americans took risks. We don't know how to do that yet," the EU official tells French radio.
Covid: EU's von der Leyen admits vaccine rollout failures
Ursula von der Leyen tells the Brussels Parliament "we're still not where we want to be".
www.bbc.co.uk
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
It's complicated, but it's political, not really legal or structural
There is no legal requirement for the member states to cooperate on vaccines, nor for them to sub-contract their purchase and distribution to the EU - however, there was huge political pressure applied to (particularly) the northern states by the EU who saw an opportunity for 'empire growth', and from the southern states who feared being squeezed out by the larger buying power of the Northern states.
There is, I think, a very sensible logic to the idea of 'bulk buying' the bigger your order the better unit price, but crucially, you go to the front of the queue for delivery....
Now, the political issue here with a UK where the 2016 referendum had been won by Remain, is that just as Leave have (in our time line) claimed all the spoils, Remain would have swept Euroscepticism aside, and we'd have a very euro-enthusuastic political class, not just government.
So, come 2020 we've (still) got Cameron/Osborne/Hunt as PM, fresh from a referendum win - and a along comes C-19, and the EU trying to get its members to join up together to do the vaccine purchase.
Does anyone really think that in those circumstances our political body politic would have decided that 'no' was the correct answer?
If anyone is thinking 'yeah, maybe...' then I ask you to look at the #FBPE types, and try to remember when any of them have said 'yeah, I broadly support the EU, but on this I think they're wrong, and they we should - in this instance - do something different...'.
No, me neither....
I'm no fan of the capitalist EU, never have been. At the same time though I acknowledge the benefits of good international relations and trade, which includes the rest of Europe ofcourse.
I think it's been worse than fairly bad, with more negative consequences yet to come. It also seems likely that Brexit will trigger yet more austerity inflicted upon the poor.
I think it's been worse than fairly bad, with more negative consequences yet to come. It also seems likely that Brexit will trigger yet more austerity inflicted upon the poor.
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
Another sweet Brexit dividend. Taking back control to dump more shit in our rivers:
From here: Water and sewerage company effluent discharges: supply chain failure RPS B2
From here: Water and sewerage company effluent discharges: supply chain failure RPS B2
comrade spurski
Well-Known Member
Voted very badly...mainly cos the bollocks spoken about it from both sides keeps going on. I had hoped people would stfu about by now.
Needs at least another 5 or 10 years to properly judge imho...however I do think that the vote has given racists a boost.
(I voted stay purely cos of my fear about the racism of the loudest leavers. In most other aspects I supported the "lexit" campaign...apart from them using the name "lexit")
Needs at least another 5 or 10 years to properly judge imho...however I do think that the vote has given racists a boost.
(I voted stay purely cos of my fear about the racism of the loudest leavers. In most other aspects I supported the "lexit" campaign...apart from them using the name "lexit")
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
*citation needed
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Could some who speaks FBPE help translate this into something comprehensible please?
My own translation reads: ‘collapsing growth and dwindling consent for the neoliberal worldview forces the elites to rethink how they maintain hegemony, erm, Chinese state capitalism is likely to overtake these models, tennis, these young migrant tennis players are excellent and the future of things, in conclusion rejoining a dying bloc which I’ve just explained is finished as a model is the way forward and solidarity with the open EU which is currently turning its back in Afghan refugees..
My own translation reads: ‘collapsing growth and dwindling consent for the neoliberal worldview forces the elites to rethink how they maintain hegemony, erm, Chinese state capitalism is likely to overtake these models, tennis, these young migrant tennis players are excellent and the future of things, in conclusion rejoining a dying bloc which I’ve just explained is finished as a model is the way forward and solidarity with the open EU which is currently turning its back in Afghan refugees..
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Sunday afternoon, post claret tweeting?
Better wages, more jobs. And both my lads hitting working age 
More administrative stuff if you are a business owner trading or travelling to the EU. Seeing as very few people I know travel regularly there (Med holiday every other year maybe) or own that kind of business that has effected me/mine exactly zero.
More administrative stuff if you are a business owner trading or travelling to the EU. Seeing as very few people I know travel regularly there (Med holiday every other year maybe) or own that kind of business that has effected me/mine exactly zero.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Blood pressure
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
i'm not the one who said it was neiter good nor bad that we gave this government the right to choose what right workers have
amazing they skipped that part in the exit deal even before covid
don't worry next time Boris wants new wall paper its about as much a roll as our NI Hike from next year
don't worry less europeans to steal your kids jobs
fuck off from the irish who you cannot deport
amazing they skipped that part in the exit deal even before covid
don't worry next time Boris wants new wall paper its about as much a roll as our NI Hike from next year
don't worry less europeans to steal your kids jobs
fuck off from the irish who you cannot deport
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Cool, i don't understand why you think Brexit has been neither bad nor good
when it was sold as helping the NHS and has given you a base 1 percent wage increase
and how it helps workers
regardless of the idea that labour shortages make it easier for your kids to progress in their apprenticeships
tis a public poll btw
when it was sold as helping the NHS and has given you a base 1 percent wage increase
and how it helps workers
regardless of the idea that labour shortages make it easier for your kids to progress in their apprenticeships
tis a public poll btw
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A concise summary by The Financial Times about the very considerable economic harm Brexit has done to the U.K.
It's six years since Brexit and we are doing worse than any comparable nation. The graph comparing is with France (who have a similar service focused economy to ours) was very sobering. They are doing much better than us. Brexit was as they say a “slow puncture” as we slowly and steadily fall behind our competitors each year. (Project Fear was both disingenuous and counter productive. We were never going to fall off cliff. Well not until someone like Truss took over.)
The main problem is that the advantage of being able to set our regulations not only fails to compensate the loss in our goods being held up in our largest market by non tariff regulations (ie sitting in a warehouse somewhere in the EU for weeks) it can actually cost us more around the world. As the world’s largest market EU regulations are copied up others including the US and China because that makes economic sense. So creating our own makes no sense!
The video gives the example of the chemical industry. It cost us £500,000 to harmonise with EU regulations but since Brexit it has cost us £2bn to make up our own and for what? With the global chemical industry already aligned to the much larger EU market we will get no advantage from this outlay. So all the ‘free market’ advantages claimed by Brexiteers don’t stand up to scrutiny. The only thing which will make us more competitive in this line will be by paying poorer wages!
So while Brexit has only ensured that our exporters are at a disadvantage and have had to pay European warehouses rather than our own to store their products (and the 30% cut taken by EU agents) what advantage does it give our non EU exporters? Last year we sold $6.75bn to India which is pretty good but Germany sold them $12.97. And the further away a market is the higher the costs and lower the profits. So yes of course we should try to increase our trade with a country with so many people but we didn’t need Brexit to do that!
It's six years since Brexit and we are doing worse than any comparable nation. The graph comparing is with France (who have a similar service focused economy to ours) was very sobering. They are doing much better than us. Brexit was as they say a “slow puncture” as we slowly and steadily fall behind our competitors each year. (Project Fear was both disingenuous and counter productive. We were never going to fall off cliff. Well not until someone like Truss took over.)
The main problem is that the advantage of being able to set our regulations not only fails to compensate the loss in our goods being held up in our largest market by non tariff regulations (ie sitting in a warehouse somewhere in the EU for weeks) it can actually cost us more around the world. As the world’s largest market EU regulations are copied up others including the US and China because that makes economic sense. So creating our own makes no sense!
The video gives the example of the chemical industry. It cost us £500,000 to harmonise with EU regulations but since Brexit it has cost us £2bn to make up our own and for what? With the global chemical industry already aligned to the much larger EU market we will get no advantage from this outlay. So all the ‘free market’ advantages claimed by Brexiteers don’t stand up to scrutiny. The only thing which will make us more competitive in this line will be by paying poorer wages!
So while Brexit has only ensured that our exporters are at a disadvantage and have had to pay European warehouses rather than our own to store their products (and the 30% cut taken by EU agents) what advantage does it give our non EU exporters? Last year we sold $6.75bn to India which is pretty good but Germany sold them $12.97. And the further away a market is the higher the costs and lower the profits. So yes of course we should try to increase our trade with a country with so many people but we didn’t need Brexit to do that!
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
IIRC Chairman Mao, when asked about the French Revolution, replied that it was too soon to judge.
I'm of the firm opinion that Brexit is the single most overrated issue of all time and is only talked about because it's a proxy for various political stances. It just doesn't matter and hasn't affected anything. Everything about it (pro or anti) is bullshit. I thought leaving the customs union was a bit nutty but non of the predictions of project fear have materialised, but at the same time this free marketeering idea that the UK can just set up trade links all over the world is bullshit, the lexit case was fine but also bullshit because I recon we could have just remained and carried out a social democratic programme anyway if Labour were up to it. It's bullshit, bullshit, bullshit whatever way you look at it and there are far more pressing concerns. Constantly talking about it and posturing about it is a weird national obsession and frankly it's a weird national obsession that let the fantastically dreadful Boris Johnson government in (I blame all sides). It's quite nice seeing a fundamentally undemocratic and protectionist institution marginally undermined by the UK exit, but that's it. There isn't enough meh in the world to convey my feelings about it.
Yossarian
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This was apparently a mistranslation or misunderstanding - Zhou Enlai, then-premier of China, was speaking in 1972 about the 1968 Paris uprising.
Zhou Enlai, therefore, was responding to a question about a 1968 protest that was still having effects a few years later. He was not taking a two-centuries-long view of European history. At least not when responding to that question. Buzzkill Institute researchers have yet to determine whether Zhou Enlai thought the French were living through interesting times, as the oft-repeated “ancient Chinese curse” has it. Whether there’s anything Chinese about that curse will have to wait till another show
Zhou Enlai on the Effects of the French Revolution: "Too Early to Say." Quote or No Quote? - Professor Buzzkill
In 1972, Chinese premier Zhou Enlai was asked about the impact of the French Revolution. "Too early to say," he replied. Given that the French Revolution of
www.professorbuzzkill.com
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