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[maomao]

i havent listened to it - will do
but i think for Trump to attempt a coup he'd need a lot of support - military, close cabal cabinet level, and within the republican party higher eschelons in general - I cant see it
are there some trump maniacs out there in the public - 100% - but they're a small squashable ineffective force
we'll find out tomorrow!

I can't see the armed right rising to snatch the election back from a clear loss but if he tries to declare early and snatch it the Republican party faced with years out of power might find it too tempting not to go along with it. Then protests from the left could escalate and larger, better organised, versions of what's happened in Portland breaking out in other cities, troops being sent in to crush uprisings etc. Not impossible and I think the left is actually better organised and with more roots in urban communities than the assault weapon fetishists on the right.

Anyway, wrong thread but it may take longer to get a clear result than they imagine.

 

[Sue]

to South Georgia to join the project for penguin conservation

Have you seen this?

Giant Antarctic iceberg on collision course with British territory of South Georgia

Fears the 150km long A-68A iceberg, which broke away from Larsen C ice shelf in 2017, could disrupt wildlife and shipping routes

www.theguardian.com

May need to consider the implications for your plans....

 

[Pickman's model]

Have you seen this?

Giant Antarctic iceberg on collision course with British territory of South Georgia

Fears the 150km long A-68A iceberg, which broke away from Larsen C ice shelf in 2017, could disrupt wildlife and shipping routes

www.theguardian.com

May need to consider the implications for your plans....

Yes, I am taking bookings for the 2021 Grytviken ice festival which will eclipse Harbin's feeble effort

 

[ska invita]

if youd like to read something funny to round off the day.....

If Biden wins UK will suffer badly – entirely because of REMAINERS

IF Joe Biden sneaks a win in this messiest of US elections Britain will face terrible economic damage.

www.express.co.uk

 

[SpookyFrank]

if youd like to read something funny to round off the day.....


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If Biden wins UK will suffer badly – entirely because of REMAINERS

IF Joe Biden sneaks a win in this messiest of US elections Britain will face terrible economic damage.

www.express.co.uk

How have those people from the local paper letters page been given a national newspaper to run?

 

[Dogsauce]

I’m still trying to get my head round the logic of that statement. Probably shouldn’t have bothered as there likely isn’t any.

I reckon Johnson had high hopes of a trump victory, probably given some reassuring numbers from whatever Cambridge Analytica type outfit was bending the will of the US electorate and motivating non-voting racists etc., but then it just hasn’t quite come through so his plan of sticking the economy on a US life-raft post a no-deal fuck up has sunk. The ideas cupboard is probably bare. Time to sell the fishing industry down the river and take whatever shitty deal Barnier offers.

 

[ska invita]

I’m still trying to get my head round the logic of that statement.

what statement?

 

[SpookyFrank]

what statement?

'It's all remainers' fault' I assume.

 

[ska invita]

'It's all remainers' fault' I assume.

ah,'statement' confused me... 'swivel eyed ramblings' more accurate

 

[not-bono-ever]

This trope about the US election is pointless, even in rooted in Johnson’s kaleidoscope worldview . The US does what is good for the US, not what is good for everyone else. There will be no real advantage to being chums with a resurgent Phoenix like trump or a more likely dawn of the undead Biden. We don’t get favours that cost the US anything despite our self proclaimed position of being besties with the prez.

 

[Dogsauce]

This trope about the US election is pointless, even in rooted in Johnson’s kaleidoscope worldview . The US does what is good for the US, not what is good for everyone else. There will be no real advantage to being chums with a resurgent Phoenix like trump or a more likely dawn of the undead Biden. We don’t get favours that cost the US anything despite our self proclaimed position of being besties with the prez.

I’m sure Trump would have offered a favourable deal to the U.K. in order to encourage more states to split off from the EU, making an example of how well it could go. His backers want the superstate dismantled. Whether any such plan would get through Congress is questionable.

 

[alex_]

if youd like to read something funny to round off the day.....


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If Biden wins UK will suffer badly – entirely because of REMAINERS

IF Joe Biden sneaks a win in this messiest of US elections Britain will face terrible economic damage.

www.express.co.uk

yes, pretty sure nothing is the brexiteers fault - particular putting themselves in a position where random countries can fuck them

 

[MickiQ]

I’m still trying to get my head round the logic of that statement. Probably shouldn’t have bothered as there likely isn’t any.

I reckon Johnson had high hopes of a trump victory, probably given some reassuring numbers from whatever Cambridge Analytica type outfit was bending the will of the US electorate and motivating non-voting racists etc., but then it just hasn’t quite come through so his plan of sticking the economy on a US life-raft post a no-deal fuck up has sunk. The ideas cupboard is probably bare. Time to sell the fishing industry down the river and take whatever shitty deal Barnier offers.

The thought that Johnson is feeling depressed at the sight of the Tangerine Turd slowly and painfully losing (the election and his marbles) is the cherry on top as far as I am concerned.

 

[Roadkill]

I’m sure Trump would have offered a favourable deal to the U.K. in order to encourage more states to split off from the EU, making an example of how well it could go. His backers want the superstate dismantled. Whether any such plan would get through Congress is questionable.

I doubt it'd have been that favourable. The US would protect its interests as ruthlessly as it always does, but where it could be done without causing domestic ructions they'd probably throw in a few concessions to give the appearance of generosity. As you say, they want to peel off more states from the EU, and shafting the UK too egregiously wouldn't be a good start.

 

[Artaxerxes]

This trope about the US election is pointless, even in rooted in Johnson’s kaleidoscope worldview . The US does what is good for the US, not what is good for everyone else. There will be no real advantage to being chums with a resurgent Phoenix like trump or a more likely dawn of the undead Biden. We don’t get favours that cost the US anything despite our self proclaimed position of being besties with the prez.

This is true but the uk political class has a real boner for the special relationship even after decades of the us doing whatever it likes.

“But I can change him!” About sums it up.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Its not looking promising for the borders at the moment.

With less than two months left, let's check in on Brexit: All IT systems are up and running and ready to go, says no one

Oh sorry, did you expect this headline to work out differently?

www.theregister.com

 

[Roadkill]

Its not looking promising for the borders at the moment.

With less than two months left, let's check in on Brexit: All IT systems are up and running and ready to go, says no one

Oh sorry, did you expect this headline to work out differently?

www.theregister.com

Or Kent:

 

[Pickman's model]

Or Kent:

They'll doubtless be known as kapos

 

[Badgers]

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany

 

[TopCat]

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany

Oh no! What can be done to appease them?

 

[Badgers]

Oh no! What can be done to appease them?

Yeah..

But there are a lot of 'not cunt' jobs going to go with them.

If Woolworths was reopening they might have a chance

 

[TopCat]

But seriously, how do you appease capital? Offer a more favourable tax regime?

 

[TopCat]

Reintroduce exchange controls? Unlikely.

 

[Badgers]

But seriously, how do you appease capital? Offer a more favourable tax regime?

With this government and opposition?

 

[TopCat]

With this government and opposition?

Yeah.

 

[TopCat]

Starmer will do anything to look good to money.

 

[philosophical]

On the Andrew Marr programme this morning Dominic Rabb said the Good Friday Agreement was not under threat from the UK but from the EU.
Putting to one side that he is totally wrong in saying that, and the reverse of what he said is the truth, what he seems to be acknowledging is that the Good Friday Agreement is indeed under threat.

 

[kabbes]

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany

They’re moving assets. As in, the location of their investments. Not jobs. Just money. Because that’s what the EU is — the ability to shift money around at the drop of a hat.

 

[Badgers]

They’re moving assets. As in, the location of their investments. Not jobs. Just money. Because that’s what the EU is — the ability to shift money around at the drop of a hat.

It is the first phase

 

[kabbes]

It is the first phase

No it’s not. It’s just Tuesday.

Have you any idea how much money Goldman’s are responsible for? 60bn is pocket change.