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[philosophical]

Ha my home borough!

I expect to be able to recognise you given your stated life purpose to call over half the country racist cunts. You must get regularly in scuffles. Missing teeth and bruises?

I wont put you on ignore given you consistently represent the worst of the remainer attitudes. It's important to remember the effect on our lives that people like you had.

We live in the same borough? Brilliant.
Correct me if I'm wrong but earlier today you were suggesting doing violence to me with that question about teeth.
So I call you out on your threat.
Suggest a time and a place where you will attempt to carry out your threat and I will be there. As you will have (as you say) no trouble recognising me, would you mind posting your picture so I can recognise you?

 

[eatmorecheese]

We live in the same borough? Brilliant.
Correct me if I'm wrong but earlier today you were suggesting doing violence to me with that question about teeth.
So I call you out on your threat.
Suggest a time and a place where you will attempt to carry out your threat and I will be there. As you will have (as you say) no trouble recognising me, would you mind posting your picture so I can recognise you?

Oh ffs, cut it out. Adolescent posturing.

 

[philosophical]

Oh ffs, cut it out. Adolescent posturing.

Are you taking sides?
Are you suggesting that I should melt away because TopCat seemed to threaten violence?
I can assure you it isn't posturing on my part, even if it seems adolescent to you.
I will be there if he wants to carry out his threat.
The station?
The clock tower?
Under the plaster cat in Catford?

 

[teqniq]

Get a grip.

 

[philosophical]

Does get a grip mean that if TopCat threatens violence I should run away?

 

[eatmorecheese]

Are you taking sides?
Are you suggesting that I should melt away because Topcat seemed to threaten violence?
I can assure you it isn't posturing on my part, even if it seems adolescent to you.
I will be there if he wants to carry out his threat.
The station?
The clock tower?
Under the plaster cat in Catford?

The teeth thing I took to be implying that if you openly slag off anyone who voted Leave as a racist in your community with the ardour you do online, you might have lost a few teeth. But, y'know, whatever.

The Rialto, Crofton Park? (JOKE)

 

[Pickman's model]

'If only I could control'.
Pickman's lament.
Bless.

your lament, your constant and dull refrain for some years now, has been about how remain lost. it extends at excruciating length over thousands of your posts. By contrast my lament extends over precisely one. You've spent weeks if not months of your life whining about how it's all so unfair etc like some superannuated Kevin the teenager. What a way to spend your sunset years

 

[teqniq]

eatmorecheese I was thinking something along the same lines, that and old age.

 

[philosophical]

The teeth thing I took to be implying that if you openly slag off anyone who voted Leave as a racist in your community with the ardour you do online, you might have lost a few teeth. But, y'know, whatever.

The Rialto, Crofton Park? (JOKE)

You took it that way, I took it as a threat.
It was hours ago and if it wasn't a direct threat TopCat has had ample opportunity to put the record straight.
The Brockley Jack?

 

[Pickman's model]

The teeth thing I took to be implying that if you openly slag off anyone who voted Leave as a racist in your community with the ardour you do online, you might have lost a few teeth. But, y'know, whatever.

The Rialto, Crofton Park? (JOKE)

Bet he skulks about speaking nary a word about his views

 

[philosophical]

your lament, your constant and dull refrain for some years now, has been about how remain lost. it extends at excruciating length over thousands of your posts. By contrast my lament extends over precisely one. You've spent weeks if not months of your life whining about how it's all so unfair etc like some superannuated Kevin the teenager. What a way to spend your sunset years

As opposed to fantasising about hanging Boris Johnson somewhere in the South Atlantic?
Your whining is so superior to the whining of others is it?
'If only you could control'.

 

[eatmorecheese]

You took it that way, I took it as a threat.
It was hours ago and if it wasn't a direct threat TopCat has had ample opportunity to put the record straight.
The Brockley Jack?

Ok, never mind. I just think calling people out for a fight irl on the internet is a silly waste of time. Carry on to your heart's content, I'm out.

 

[Pickman's model]

As opposed to fantasising about hanging Boris Johnson somewhere in the South Atlantic?
Your whining is so superior to the whining of others is it?
'If only you could control'.

I have never fantasised about hanging Boris Johnson in the south atlantic

 

[philosophical]

Bet he skulks about speaking nary a word about his views

You're invited, you can be cameraman if you like.

 

[philosophical]

I have never fantasised about hanging Boris Johnson in the south atlantic

Somewhere else then.

 

[philosophical]

Ok, never mind. I just think calling people out for a fight irl on the internet is a silly waste of time. Carry on to your heart's content, I'm out.

Tell that to TopCat if you like.
Bye.

 

[Crispy]

Could you put it all in one post so I don't see so many "You are ignoring content by this member. Show ignored content" messages? THanks.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The teeth thing I took to be implying that if you openly slag off anyone who voted Leave as a racist in your community with the ardour you do online, you might have lost a few teeth. But, y'know, whatever.

You just have to call them racist using polysyllabic words, and then they won't understand you.

I'm joking of course. They actually become violently enraged by anything they don't understand.

 

[Raheem]

Does get a grip mean that if TopCat threatens violence I should run away?

If TopCat threatens violence, phone Officer Dibble.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If TopCat threatens violence, phone Officer Dibble.

I see what you did there.

 

[Supine]

This thread needs a ban hammer

 

[Winot]

He ruined the other long Brexit thread too.

 

[philosophical]

Parts of the village of Sevington in Kent are being concreted over for a lorry park. Locals have seen no plans, pathways have been closed and there has been environmental damage.
According to a story in the Independent a local, Sharon Swandale, says this was never part of the selling and marketing of Brexit.
Kent voted 60-40 in favour of brexit.
A local Kent County Councillor, Tory scum Paul Bartlett who lives next to the construction site says it will bring jobs to the area.
Even if the local environment is damaged, and the whole thing needn't have happened it is already going ahead.
Bartlett said it is a beautiful part of the country to live in but sometimes you've got to take the rough with the smooth.
What smooth?
I personally hope it fucks up more and more of Kent and they are gridlocked and concreted over for decades because they voted for it. I hope the rough is overwhelmingly unbearable and they can cast around for eternity for the never happening smooth.
This is the start of the range of concrete sites Brexit voters willingly invited on.

 

[brogdale]

I personally hope it fucks up more and more of Kent and they are gridlocked and concreted over for decades because they voted for it. I hope the rough is overwhelmingly unbearable and they can cast around for eternity for the never happening smooth.

I get that you're posting for effect, but as someone with all my family in East Kent, (who mostly voted R FWIW), I'd say that your hopes are not only ecologically disastrous, but also damaging to many folks living in considerable deprivation. Much of East Kent suffers from levels of multiple deprivation comparable with the poorer parts of Greater London.

 

[Flavour]

This thread is unreadable.

 

[philosophical]

I get that you're posting for effect, but as someone with all my family in East Kent, (who mostly voted R FWIW), I'd say that your hopes are not only ecologically disastrous, but also damaging to many folks living in considerable deprivation. Much of East Kent suffers from levels of multiple deprivation comparable with the poorer parts of Greater London.

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Yes it is a disaster.
However until it is made practically manifest how else will the penny drop for those who usher this on?
Reasoned argument hasn't worked has it? Pointing out the practical problems hasn't worked either.
I was born in a deprived part of Kent, but live in quite a humble part of London.
Brexit voting posters here are triumphalist and call objectors like me cunts, they seemingly welcome the suffering for your family and others.

 

[brogdale]

Yes it is a disaster.
However until it is made practically manifest how else will the penny drop for those who usher this on?
Reasoned argument hasn't worked has it? Pointing out the practical problems hasn't worked either.
I was born in a deprived part of Kent, but live in quite a humble part of London.
Brexit voting posters here are triumphalist and call objectors like me cunts, they seemingly welcome the suffering for your family and others.

If the entire Tory project to leave the EU has taught us anything at all, it is surely that we're dealing with a consciousness that derives from the affective rather than material conditions. Yes, the immediate post-Brexit years will see significant economic harm for the working class, but wishing that on certain areas will do nothing to change peoples' minds, will it?

 

[philosophical]

If the entire Tory project to leave the EU has taught us anything at all, it is surely that we're dealing with a consciousness that derives from the affective rather than material conditions. Yes, the immediate post-Brexit years will see significant economic harm for the working class, but wishing that on certain areas will do nothing to change peoples' minds, will it?

It might.
What else is there?
And isn't it too late to change minds anyway?
In my younger idealistic years the notion was that the deprived would rise up and overthrow the ruling elite.
Never been a chance of that though.
It is said rebellion of the belly is the hardest to put down, maybe the one unforeseen benefit of brexit is that it becomes unbearable enough for the ruling elite to be destroyed by those affected.
Is there an alternative pathway?

 

[brogdale]

It might.
What else is there?
And isn't it too late to change minds anyway?
In my younger idealistic years the notion was that the deprived would rise up and overthrow the ruling elite.
Never been a chance of that though.
It is said rebellion of the belly is the hardest to put down, maybe the one unforeseen benefit of brexit is that it becomes unbearable enough for the ruling elite to be destroyed by those affected.
Is there an alternative pathway?

Trouble is, when remain supporters say things like

I personally hope it fucks up more and more of Kent and they are gridlocked and concreted over for decades because they voted for it.

you just sound like a massive cunt.
FWIW, I believe that, in time, working class voters who were persuaded to vote Leave, will come to regret seeing either option as a means of improving life chances for their kids/grandkids, but I think that'll take some time...and suprastate supporters cheering their misfortune from the wings will not help that process.

 

[philosophical]

Trouble is, when remain supporters say things like you just sound like a massive cunt.
FWIW, I believe that, in time, working class voters who were persuaded to vote Leave, will come to regret seeing either option as a means of improving life chances for their kids/grandkids, but I think that'll take some time...and suprastate supporters cheering their misfortune from the wings will not help that process.

You believe that in time there will be regret.
I hope by bring a massive cunt on this matter it might accelerate the process.
I take some comfort in however massive a cunt I am I have a way to go to reach the cuntish levels of brexit voters.
The slower the process the more embedded the enemy become from my point of view.
Rees Mogg has already tried to buy himself 50 years.