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A close call but I think you are right here.

Thatcher was an awful cunt but didn't hide it. She also had (cruel but still) a bit of a brain.

This cunt fails on everything, is still a cunt but pretends to be your mate.

Thatcher actually did what she said she was going to do most of the time, often when many people thought she wouldn’t. Johnson’s pretty much the opposite.
 
Well it seems the news is good, they are beginning to compromise, now we just have to see if Johnson will accept such a compromise from his negotiators?
 
Thatcher actually did what she said she was going to do most of the time, often when many people thought she wouldn’t. Johnson’s pretty much the opposite.
Well she is credited for much of the creation of the EU so I can understand the hindsight fondness towards her legacy emerging from some remainers.
 
Well she is credited for much of the creation of the EU so I can understand the hindsight fondness towards her legacy emerging from some remainers.

Not on here. Here, the only discussion up there was only the question of whether Johnson was even worse than Thatcher as a PM.

TBH, I reckon I'd be hardpushed to find any erstwhile anti-Thatcher people who have become fond of her, however remainey, unless they were Tories in the first place ;)
 
Not on here. Here, the only discussion up there was only the question of whether Johnson was even worse than Thatcher as a PM.

TBH, I reckon I'd be hardpushed to find any erstwhile anti-Thatcher people who have become fond of her, however remainey, unless they were Tories in the first place ;)
When the ‘EU’ was being created Fatch was creating Mr Whippy ice cream, so not sure she should be credited with the origins of the suprastate, tbh. ;)
 
She signed one big bit of pro euro legislation. Which one?
There's more than enough to hate about Thatcher's politics and record in office without the need to make stuff up. She plainly was not "credited for much of the creation of the EU" and was staunchly sceptical about ever closer political union of members of the supra-state.
 
interesting you should take that tack. but sadly typical. the consensus on urban is that boris johnson is even worse than margaret thatcher.
Change the wording to obfuscate, if you like. But we can all see that you like Thatcher even more than you like Boris Johnson and it has been noted in my notebook for posterity.
 
There's more than enough to hate about Thatcher's politics and record in office without the need to make stuff up. She plainly was not "credited for much of the creation of the EU" and was staunchly sceptical about ever closer political union of members of the supra-state.
She was also, if I remember correctly, very keen on expanding the EU further eastward to include ex-Soviet satellites.
 
I'll say one thing for Enoch Powell, he never wrote a book which claimed Hitler won at Stalingrad
i prefer luke haines et al's revelations about the TRUE history of britain and powell's role in it.


Haines described his motivation for the project: "It occurred to me that we understand everything now. I wanted to do something that made people go, 'What the fuck is this?' There comes a time in a man's life, when he must make the ultimate concept album.

 
i prefer luke haines et al's revelations about the TRUE history of britain and powell's role in it.


Haines described his motivation for the project: "It occurred to me that we understand everything now. I wanted to do something that made people go, 'What the fuck is this?' There comes a time in a man's life, when he must make the ultimate concept album.


the reference was of course to boris johnson who has made the statement in his book about churchill
 
That would belong to either Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George or H.H. Asquith, most probably.

That did come to mind as I was sitting down to read the responses, but I think Churchill's let off this one since the dispute wasn't exactly of his making.
 
My mistake: "Mr Churchill is not remembered fondly in India and during the Bengal famine in 1943, where up to three million people died, the war-time Prime Minister refused to send aid and said it was the fault of the Indians for “breeding like rabbits”.


Going to be stiff competition though: "“…Nor is there any memorial to the massacres of the Raj, from Delhi in 1857 to Amritsar in 1919, the deaths of 35 million Indians in totally unnecessary famines caused by British policy,” he [Mr Tharoor] added."
 
BJ is going to India in January to pick up where May left off.
To recap the first thing May did after the referendum was go to India, and be told any trade deal was predicated on increased migration access and would take a minimum of ten years.

Johnson in India...shudder
 
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