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Crying white supremacist Christopher Cantwell surrenders to police

Cantwell was wanted by University of Virginia police on two counts of the illegal use of tear gas or other gases and one count of malicious bodily injury with a “caustic substance,” explosive or fire during the violence in Charlottesville earlier this month. ...

...Cantwell turned himself in to police in nearby Lynchburg, Virginia,...
How appropriate.

e2a I thinks this is the same guy in tears in the vid upthread, now where is my tiny violin?
 
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By who? Most P&P posters have had his card marked for years. And many of those who have been pointing out his shite are the same people that criticise liberal identity politics.
Have you been reading this thread? He has been vouched for and his posts liked in the last few pages.
I seen others stick up for him in the past too. Not sure what you are upset about TBH.
 
"If he wants to spread white supremacist ideology now, he'll have to do it in the Stateville prison."

That's likely one of the most fertile grounds for doing just that. He'll find plenty of friends there.

White Supremacist Prison Gangs in the United States

If you're going to try to eliminate White Supremacy, you're going to have to deal with this problem as much, or more, than with the ones willing to march in the streets.
 
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I'm not upset, I just don't think your characterisation was very accurate. There's been a single poster that has "vouched" for him on this thread.

There is nothing wrong with my characterisation. I just went back to check I wasn't misremembering...there at least 8 other posters on the thread liking his posts and/or the ones vouching for him. Those likes are solidarity likes and support of his position. I can notice that and post about it if I want.
 
from another thread ...

Here you go Athos. As I stated earlier, I will engage with you and you only on here.

Let's have this conversation some other time. I only entered the fray on that other thread because a bunch of binary-thinkers were labelling him a Fascist.

Let's not stink up this thread with more of the same,eh?


Given that he regularly travels to watch a team with a big fascist fan base, and says he's more in common with fascists than anarchists, these 'binary-thinkers' could be forgiven for reaching that conclusion. Particularly given the long history of racist, sexist and homophobic posts. He can only hide behind politically sound contacts for so long, before he's found out and/or he taints others who refuse to speak up.


Point one:
Given that he regularly travels to watch a team with a big fascist fan base

1 Can you quantify 'regularly'?

2 And show me where he has said he went there 'regularly'?

To the best of my knowledge he has been there once (or possibly twice) in the company of Leftists.

3. I have been to Windsor Park at two Linfield matches. I was in the company of (progressive) people from a loyalist background. Whilst they might be regarded as dangerous radicals in their own community, they would certainly be regarded as reactionary on here. I went there under their guarantees of safety. Does that make me a loyalist? An apologist for loyalism?

Point TWO
, and says he's more in common with fascists than anarchists,

The people he visits in Berlin ARE Anarchists/Anarcho-Communists. He is merely distancing himself from Lifestyle Anarchists and fraggle-rockers and saying that culturally, socially, fashion-wise he always had more in common with working class fascists thatn many middle-class trendy lefties. So have I. So have many thousands of people on the political left.

Do you want me to post THAT George Orwell quote again.

All he is saying is that socially he has found he had more in common with young, working-class fash than with trendy-lefty, lifestyle 'Anarchists'.

If I had a quid for every time someone in or around Red Action/the DAM/AFA in the 70's/80's and early 90's, I could keep Urban's Server fund going indefinitely.

What he said is not even controversial really. It is a widely held opinion of thousands of people on the political Left. People like Bob Crowe, for example, was never behind the door when voicing his disdain for much of what he considered (rightly IMO) the dilettante Left.

And on the subject of Bob and his mates. They were all mostly Millwall to the backbone, as well as being lifetime Commies. Are some people here suggesting they should have stopped going/surrendered their club to the fash cos they went too? what a load of bollocks.

POINT 3
these 'binary-thinkers' could be forgiven for reaching that conclusion.

They reached that conclusion based on their own prejudices IMO, long before . They remind me of coppers, seizing on everything that 'confirms' their convictions and simply ignoring anything that does not fit their pre-determined beliefs.

It's not new. It's typical of the left.

As for the rest of your post. I disagree with you. But who cares? As I said. I entered this fray cos he was being called out as a fascist and also called a liar - by clowns. I'm sorry if some joined-up thinkers like you were caught in the crossfire.

I am not here to defend his every post. Like I said before , he is big and ugly enough to do that for himself.
 
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I went back to page 28 because I remembered just how much it fucking annoyed me but we all left it unchallenged....yet, here we all are remembering CR's own long 'identitist' history of posting racist, homophobic, sexist bullshit...we also have people here making excuses for it and he still posts this crap like he's got it all going on. He is vouched for and pronounced truly of the left!

Yet, and relation to the post quoted, a WOC called out White women who support the Altright/White Supremacism and this was the response. A critique of the left, accusations of racism, that 'They despise and disparage whites'. Bullshit. The likes of CR are the very reason people can't/won't solely focus on the class struggle above all else. We repeatedly have to deal with his ilk implicitly and explicitly . Stop asking us to take one for the 'team' by ignoring this shit. :(

He's not vouched for by 'the left'.

You've set up a false dichotomy. It's possible to abhor and challenge racism from a perspective other than identity politics. Arguably, more effectively in respect of that narrow issue, and certainly in resort of the bigger picture of which it's a part.
 
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Point one:


1 Can you quantify 'regularly'?

2 And show me where he has said he went there 'regularly'?

Just popping in to acknowledge I was completely wrong on this point. Just met the cunt in the pub and he told ne he had been there many, many, times.

He also told me why he went there and who he was with. I laughed my cock off. None of you'se would lace this German Comrade's boots.

Fair play to them. Fancy bringing the argument to where the Fash are instead of appealing to the victims.
 
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I went back to page 28 because I remembered just how much it fucking annoyed me but we all left it unchallenged....yet, here we all are remembering CR's own long 'identitist' history of posting racist, homophobic, sexist bullshit...we also have people here making excuses for it and he still posts this crap like he's got it all going on. He is vouched for and pronounced truly of the left!

Yet, and relation to the post quoted, a WOC called out White women who support the Altright/White Supremacism and this was the response. A critique of the left, accusations of racism, that 'They despise and disparage whites'. Bullshit. The likes of CR are the very reason people can't/won't solely focus on the class struggle above all else. We repeatedly have to deal with his ilk implicitly and explicitly . Stop asking us to take one for the 'team' by ignoring this shit. :(

It's like when Cheesy fan-girling for Milo and Prison planet amongst others, rocked up all indignant because she learnt that one WOC in Canada hated White people and Cheesy demanded every POC on Urban prostrate ourselves to her and apologise whilst simultaneously denouncing the BLM movement. :D :mad: She felt vulnerable because one person doesn't worship at her alter? Privilege is as it does and can fuck the fuck off.

Give it a rest you massive bum pain . Christs sake .
 
How is callin a liar a liar personal abuse?

This is not the first thread he has stunk up with his peurile, pathetic trolling of another poster.

He has come on this thread, not just cross-thread trolling but cross bulletin-board/cross fuckin DECADE trolling!

The Alt-Right

I understand you have to have rules. Maybe you should try applying them - equally.

He's one of the cool kids mates is why . Rule for us, rule for the cool kids .
 
How is callin a liar a liar personal abuse?

This is not the first thread he has stunk up with his peurile, pathetic trolling of another poster.

He has come on this thread, not just cross-thread trolling but cross bulletin-board/cross fuckin DECADE trolling!

The Alt-Right

I understand you have to have rules. Maybe you should try applying them - equally.

There's no fucking rules . You contradicted his scum fucking mate, that's why you were pulled
 
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