Alt-Right/Fascist support for Putin

[Jeremiah18.17]

Maybe the key question here is not what direct influence Russian fascists, Nazis and NazBols have had on Putin’s actions, but where to situate Surkov, the Russian Bannon figure, now distanced for the last year or two from the inner circle, but highly influential in getting Putin to where he is now…

Vladislav Surkov - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[frogwoman]

Nauseating bit of propaganda from Tsargrad, the far right pro Putin TV station.

 

[keybored]

They do realise Russia is about to hold some conference on "anti-fascism", right?

 

[frogwoman]

Some real anti fascist heroes here. I don't think you have to understand any Russian to get the idea

 

[rekil]

I was wondering how Lusvarghi was doing and apparently he got prisoner swapped in 2019 but got himself sent daaaahhn last year for 8 years in Brazil for drug trade shenanigans. Not quite the valhalla he claimed to be hoping for.

Dunno where the other scum like Cuvelier are now. Last seen kicked out of the US army after his naziness came to light.

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[hitmouse]

I was wondering how Lusvarghi was doing and apparently he got prisoner swapped in 2019 but got himself sent daaaahhn last year for 8 years in Brazil for drug trade shenanigans. Not quite the valhalla he claimed to be hoping for.

Dunno where the other scum like Cuvelier are now. Last seen kicked out of the US army after his naziness came to light.

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Team Vikernes. So glad we had Dempsey pledging the RMT's support to that lot in the name of antifascism.

 

[seventh bullet]

I assume it's an expansion of this article she wrote:

Accusing Russia of Fascism

Memory wars around the interpretation of the Second World War/Great Patriotic War continue to rage between Central and Eastern European countries and Russia, with European…

eng.globalaffairs.ru

There's a rebuttal of sorts here (of her recent book, not necessarily the article above):

Chapman on Laruelle, 'Is Russia Fascist? Unraveling Propaganda East and West' | H-Net

Marlene Laruelle. Is Russia Fascist? Unraveling Propaganda East and West. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2021. 264 pp. $19.99 (e-book), ISBN 978-1-5017-5414-2; $39.95 (cloth), ISBN 978-1-5017-5413-5. Reviewed by Roger Chapman (Palm Beach Atlantic University) Published on H-Russia (June, 2021)...

networks.h-net.org

I definitely agree with her about the lazy use of the word 'fascist' (she refers to Orwell's essay), there are a few things I'm not so sure about...

While I agree Putin cannot be compared to the Nazis, I'm not sure I agree that ultra-nationalism = Nazism/racism


I also wonder if this is quote hasn't aged well within the last week? (I'm not 100% what state regeneration means in this context, 'Make America Great Again', restoring national pride/place in the world, etc?)

I've managed to have a more thorough read of the articles linked to in your previous two posts so can attempt a proper answer.

The first article posted from 2004 in your first post looks to have been reworked and included in her 2008 book Russian Eurasianism. It's also important to note that a country's elite, aware of it's society's geographical reality as a central power in Eurasia and using whatever advantages it has as a result of that as leverage to build relations with neighbours which emphasise that reality, does not make somebody or something Eurasianist. The strongest on the current situation imo is the Four Myths of Russian Grand Strategy in viewing the risk Putin is willing to take in his war to take Ukraine, and it's good to move away from unhinged madman characterisations that obscure a set of circumstances and problems on a state level that demand attention since before him and will continue after he has gone.

As for Chapman's review (of a book I have yet to read! Thanks for the article that feeds into it) I am not convinced by his approach. First, what sticks in my mind is his horseshoe-like understanding of authoritarian left (twentieth century exemplar being Stalinism) and right (the fascisms we've gone over more on threads like this), and totalitarianism. It should be said that even Hannah Arendt in her post-mortem of Nazism believed that totalitarianism was not a real existing form of society but always remained an aspiration, albeit a lethal one. This can be said for the phenomenon of Stalinism too, while also acknowledging the differences between the two.

Totalitarianism is a much abused concept and I don't think the brightest of the Cold Warriors really believed the crude formulation of it as a way to accurately describe their Soviet rival in the second half of the last century, except as a useful workaday propaganda tool to be deployed in the United States and Western Europe. Putinism inherits less from Soviet 'totalitarianism' than what one of the Cold Warrior historians in the US, Richard Pipes, described and is conveyed in part in the grand strategy article. For Pipes, even though he was anti-Communist, the main danger imposed by the Soviet Union was not Marxist-Leninist ideology and politics first and foremost, but a modernised and militarily powerful Russian state. A state with a peculiarly despotic political tradition and with its origins in Mongol-Tatar influenced Moscow. A state that was vulnerable to attack from the west, south and east and saw its survival in expansion and control.

And no, I don't think Putin's Russia is fascist although that needs further elaboration.

There's a lot I've missed out but my excuse is I work silly hours, am knackered, and have only a brief time in which to post here.

 

[frogwoman]

support from a different kind of fash.

 

[hitmouse]

Kyiv Post article (from an Atlantic Council-affiliated writer, fwiw) on the Wagner Group:

Vlad's Wagner - Kyiv Post - Ukraine's Global Voice

From the editors: As the Kyiv Post reported on Dec. 14 the European Union… - Dec. 21, 2021. By Diane Francis

www.kyivpost.com

Doesn't link to any further sources, annoyingly.

 

[frogwoman]

denazification going well.

 

[zahir]

Report on Russian backing for European far right parties.

Exclusive: Russia Backs Europe’s Far Right

Emails and documents show just how closely Italian, French, German and Austrian politicians coordinate with Moscow

newlinesmag.com

Tsargrad and its officers in Moscow continued to act as the far-right parties’ contacts in Russia. They undertook clandestine measures to hide liaisons between European politicians and Aleksandr Dugin, Russia’s guru-esque philosopher of Eurasianism and an outspoken, longtime proponent of a Russian conquest of Ukraine. In some cases, the far-right parties sought advice from what they called their “Russian friends” to hinder anti-Russian proposals in the European Parliament. Tsargrad also served as an intermediary between the parties and Russia’s high-ranking politicians.

One plan cooked up by the organization in March 2021 envisaged establishing a network to be known as “Altintern,” possibly a play on the old Soviet portmanteau Comintern, which was short for the Communist International, a Moscow-based organ meant to recruit foreigners to foster Bolshevism and foment coups abroad. Among those slated to join were the constituents of the Democracy and Identity movement, which holds 64 of the 705 seats in the European Parliament and consists of members of the League and the National Rally, formerly known as the National Front, France’s reactionary and chauvinistic party headed by Marine Le Pen.

“Without our active engagement and tangible support for the European conservative parties, their popularity and influence in Europe will continue to wane,” stated an internal document created by Yakushev and circulated among Tsargrad’s officers.

 

[frogwoman]

Tsargrad are absolute scum.

 

[The39thStep]

Chega the far-right party in Portugal is anti-Rusian pro Ukraine and wants Ukraine's membership of the EU fast-tracked. Various Portuguese neo Nazis have also gone to fight for Ukraine

 

[frogwoman]

The Koch brothers want a 'partial' Vlad victory