Thatcher's State Funeral

[Yossarian]

Absolutely a counter demonstration should be mounted...with miners and all else from across the country coming to London to fuck with there day of mourning ...

so the way to fuck them is that every body who comes to protest against the Thatcherite fest in london..
Just leaves large bags of laundy etc (with wires attached) in every tube station,,bus stop..public building etc etc that you can think off..
That way we bring the whole transportation system to a halt..

If you bring protesters to London from around the country and then paralyze the transportation system, aren't you just going to end up with a lot of lost protesters scattered around a huge city? Sounds like a win for the police...

 

[story]

he certainly wasn't a 'battle chieftain' - only generals are those

Yes, you're right. Apologies.

Can we still say warlord?

 

[danny la rouge]

Privitising her funeral? Is that an Alanis thing?

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/one-privatisation-we-can-all-get-behind.286099/

 

[marty21]

Privitising her funeral? Is that an Alanis thing?

it's a joke petition tbf - but if it hits 100,000 signatures they might have to discuss it in parliament or explain why they won't be discussing it

 

[story]

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/one-privatisation-we-can-all-get-behind.286099/

Gotcha. heh...

 

[cemertyone]

Privitising her funeral? Is that an Alanis thing?

I believe the gov are in discussions with G.4 for the funeral arragements in which case there bound to lose the coffin
and end up in a place they should not be......

 

[SaskiaJayne]

I can't recall where I heard this, but apparently there is much discussion about where to bury her so that she is available to sightseers but safe from those who will want to dance and piss on her grave.

The yanks who got Bin Laden had a similarly difficult decision, they wrapped & embalmed the body as required by muslim custom then chucked it in the sea as the best option.

 

[Streathamite]

Yes, you're right. Apologies.

Can we still say warlord?

most definitely, and a singularly incompetent one if one considers gallipoli

 

[story]

Gallipoli was a travesty, as was Dresden.

I'm not sure it's possible to make decent war.

 

[cemertyone]

If you bring protesters to London from around the country and then paralyze the transportation system, aren't you just going to end up with a lot of lost protesters scattered around a huge city? Sounds like a win for the police...

Yes to a degree thats true... however, just make sure that all concerned are in London before 12.30....
Even though the police ( and all else) resources will be at hand there are only so many
bomb disposal teams...s.p.g. units and the plastic coppers at hand to deal with a real and precievied threat
to the days events....
It`s really quite simple....20 or thirty people forgetting their shopping bags on the tube system..trains etc
esp into stations like Kings Cross..Euston etc al will cause fucking havoc..
Does not need to be organised..can do it as a "lone wolf" type exercise thing//...
Of course we could be pro-active and start leaving "devicies" outside every copper shop in London on the night before
to fuck them up good and proper and make sure they are really spread thin on the ground...
Make the fuckers earn their overtime......

 

[dirty dingus]

Why protest? Do what anyone with half a brain will be doing and go out and get pished. Money gets spunked on so much ridiculous shit so why not enjoy it like an FA cup final occasion..moments like these are few and far between.

 

[dylanredefined]

Maybe if she had died while she was PM or just after quitting.She has been out of power for a long time though.Other than excuse for riots and or parties its pointless.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Churchill was widely seen as a national hero for his wartime leadership. I cant imagine many people objected to him having a state funeral.
Weather he actually was a national hero or a massive cunt is a seperate debate.

Thatcher is still passioantely detested by millions and is a hugely divisive figure.
A state funeral would be a fucking outrage and protests against/disruption of it entirely justified.

How did Chile deal with Pinochet when he departed for his richly deserved place in hell?
I remember their being big celebrations - but I cant believe they gave him a state send of.

 

[frogwoman]

there'll probably be someone complaining that if you did a petition like this in north korea you would be shot.

 

[trevhagl]

Peter Oborne in the Telegraph thinks she shouldn't have one.

that'll be HIM sacked!

 

[danny la rouge]

that'll be HIM sacked!

I wouldn't have thought so.

 

[Zabo]

Great song. Sounds in part a bit likes the Stones. Enjoy!

 

[rekil]

How did Chile deal with Pinochet when he departed for his richly deserved place in hell?
I remember their being big celebrations - but I cant believe they gave him a state send of.

No state send off. His body was displayed at a military academy. They were afraid to bury him so he was cremated. I noticed that his family's burial plot was splattered with stuff of some description on September 11th.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Edward Carson, the Ulster Unionist leader and founder of the the Ulster Volunteers (later UVF), the first loyalist paramilitary group, was afforded a British state funeral in 1935. So I'm guessing the criterion is "must be a massive cunt", with "will piss off a lot of people" coming a close second.

Hopefully someone will write a modern companion to Byron's comic verse on Castlereagh's grave to commemorate her resting place and piss off her true believers.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Gallipoli was a travesty, as was Dresden.

I'm not sure it's possible to make decent war.

There's no such thing, just as there's no such thing as a "just war". The waging of war is, by definition, indecent, however pious the motives.

That's why if I outlive Tony Blair, I'll be cranking out some stools on his final resting place as well as on Thatcher's.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Maybe if she had died while she was PM or just after quitting.She has been out of power for a long time though.Other than excuse for riots and or parties its pointless.

You're missing one of the (IMO) main points, which is that it will be a signal to the current shower of neo-liberal cunts of our disapproval of Thatcher's legacy. The legacy that all the parliamentary parties have accepted as the status quo. A legacy that shits on anyone who believes in a politics that doesn't promote selfishness.

 

[dylanredefined]

Churchill was widely seen as a national hero for his wartime leadership. I cant imagine many people objected to him having a state funeral.
Weather he actually was a national hero or a massive cunt is a seperate debate.

I doubt many people would object to labeling him as both tbh.

Violent Panda is right Thatchers legacy is real and no real alternative is seen as credible.Even though for every idea that did work some were and are truly terrible.

 

[story]

There's no such thing, just as there's no such thing as a "just war". The waging of war is, by definition, indecent, however pious the motives.

That was the point I intended to make.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That was the point I intended to make.

You said that you weren't sure, so I decided to make the case against.

 

[story]

You said that you weren't sure, so I decided to make the case against.

I should have added some ellipses or something...

To indicate that there was some subtext, or something... unsaid, but...

I was being.... sarcastic, or the comment was.... loaded.... or perhaps not, since it was... obscure to you...

 

[ViolentPanda]

I should have added some ellipses or something...

To indicate that there was some subtext, or something... unsaid, but...

I was being.... sarcastic, or the comment was.... loaded.... or perhaps not, since it was... obscure to you...

Ever considered a second career as an astrologer?

 

[Badgers]

She is not getting one

 

[ViolentPanda]

She is not getting one

I'll believe it when I see it, to be frank. Obviously no cunt is going to say "of course we're giving St. margaret a state funeral, you prole scum!", they're going to say "no sir not on your nelly, sir, never waste the taxpayers' money like that, sir".

I have to admit though, that at the thought of her funeral, I'm "getting one", IYSWIM.

 

[Whitey77]

I heard Oborne talking about this today on Radio 4's WATO.

If they really are making plans then it is to be hoped that massive counter disruptions can be mounted.

"...preparations for her death are inevitably afoot. No official announcement has been made, but it is already widely understood that she may be granted the very rare honour (outside the Royal family) of a state funeral, which would probably take place at St Paul’s Cathedral.

The discussions have been held in secret, without public debate, through a series of meetings in the inner recesses of what used to be known as the British Establishment. The most recent of these, reportedly chaired by Cabinet Office minister Francis Maude and attended by Sir Malcolm Ross, a senior member of the Royal household who oversaw the sensitive funeral arrangements for Diana, Princess of Wales in 1997, took place last week. I understand this meeting agreed that, while not on the scale of royalty, Baroness Thatcher will get a fine public send-off."

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/p...-deserves-every-honour-–-apart-from-this-one/

I don't think that Lady T is as bad as people make out. Nor do I think she should be given a state funeral. Churchill was the last commoner to be given a state funeral, and rightly so, even the Queen Mother didn't get one. I suspect it will be a privately organised but well attended affair in either a well known London church or some where in Thatcher's native Lincolnshire.

 

[Badgers]

I'll believe it when I see it, to be frank. Obviously no cunt is going to say "of course we're giving St. margaret a state funeral, you prole scum!", they're going to say "no sir not on your nelly, sir, never waste the taxpayers' money like that, sir".

I have been told by an insider