Teachers - "British values" and all that

[Steel Icarus]

My mum drank fuckloads of tea.
2 before getting up
2 with breakfast
2 after breakfast
2 mid morning
2 for elevenses
2 with dinner
2 after dinner
2 in the afternoon
2 at teatime
2 after tea
2 mid evening
2 with supper/before bed

 

[MickiQ]

Why? Seems a lot of effort if you’re thirsty. Water is underrated. I like tea but I only drink it twice a week

I'm an addict who kids himself he has it under control

 

[BillRiver]

My mum drank fuckloads of tea.
2 before getting up
2 with breakfast
2 after breakfast
2 mid morning
2 for elevenses
2 with dinner
2 after dinner
2 in the afternoon
2 at teatime
2 after tea
2 mid evening
2 with supper/before bed

That used to be me. I used a 3/4 pint mug as well. I was finally convinced that all the caffeine was not helping my anxiety problems and have reduced to 2 or 3 normal sized mugs, and only in the morning.

 

[Orang Utan]

My mum drank fuckloads of tea.
2 before getting up
2 with breakfast
2 after breakfast
2 mid morning
2 for elevenses
2 with dinner
2 after dinner
2 in the afternoon
2 at teatime
2 after tea
2 mid evening
2 with supper/before bed

That’s a lot of liquid, let alone tea!

 

[Saunders]

If I can be arsed, I make Lavazza espresso, otherwise Gold Blend Intense. I put two (used to be three) spoonfuls in a mug. It's not bad.

Gosh. What do you do when you can’t be arsed?

 

[Orang Utan]

Gosh. What do you do when you can’t be arsed?

Couple of spoons of instant in a mug. Loads of milk. Job done.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

My mum drank fuckloads of tea.
2 before getting up
2 with breakfast
2 after breakfast
2 mid morning
2 for elevenses
2 with dinner
2 after dinner
2 in the afternoon
2 at teatime
2 after tea
2 mid evening
2 with supper/before bed

I drink two teas

 

[Saunders]

Couple of spoons of instant in a mug. Loads of milk. Job done.

That sounds exactly like what Sasaferrato said.

 

[Orang Utan]

That sounds exactly like what Sasaferrato said.

Perfecto

 

[Argonia]

So have we come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as specifically British values then?

 

[Steel Icarus]

So have we come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as specifically British values then?

I'd decided there was no such thing about four seconds after first seeing this, especially as it was on a display featuring a picture of Churchill, who openly disdained at least two of them and arguably had little interest in the others

 

[Argonia]

British values blah blah blah waffle filler bollocks nonsense crap rubbish junk idiocracy stupidity foolishness mendacity lies falsehoods stupidocracy.

 

[spanglechick]

I'd decided there was no such thing about four seconds after first seeing this, especially as it was on a display featuring a picture of Churchill, who openly disdained at least two of them and arguably had little interest in the others

That’s hilarious. I’ll see if I can find a pic of our display. No Churchill in sight.

 

[spanglechick]

That’s hilarious. I’ll see if I can find a pic of our display. No Churchill in sight.

Tbf - there is a copper and the Palace of Westminster. There’s a random dog too.

 

[Argonia]

Tbf - there is a copper and the Palace of Westminster. There’s a random dog too.
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And to think they had the fucking gall to call themselves a democracy.

 

[spanglechick]

And to think they had the fucking gall to call themselves a democracy.

The dogs?

 

[Argonia]

The dogs?

What dogs?

 

[Edie]

I was talking to my bloke about this, and he said maybe there is something particularly (if not exclusively) British about the values. They certainly wouldn’t be the ones chosen in America (where he lives) or Kenya (where he’s from). It made me think.

 

[spanglechick]

What dogs?

In my post, which you quoted, I mention three of the things in the picture. One of which was a dog.

I asked if it was a dog calling itself a democracy as a joke, because I was a bit confused by what you did mean. What in my post had inspired you to “And to think they had the fucking gall to call themselves a democracy.”

 

[Argonia]

Because this disgusting 'British values' rubbish forced on poor old teachers came from the Former Regime. Which was a democracy in the sense that the Pope is a Protestant.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I was talking to my bloke about this, and he said maybe there is something particularly (if not exclusively) British about the values. They certainly wouldn’t be the ones chosen in America (where he lives) or Kenya (where he’s from). It made me think.

Yeah, the thing is they're not exclusive, but have been chosen as though they are. And not by any old person in the street like me, you, your fella or any teacher on the street. Which is good for provoking discussion in the class with my 16-19 students when we talk about if there ARE any values exclusive to Britain and what they might choose for their own.

 

[spanglechick]

Because this disgusting 'British values' rubbish forced on poor old teachers came from the Former Regime. Which was a democracy in the sense that the Pope is a Protestant.

Hmm. It came from Gove, I believe. And was quite literally the least terrible thing he did to education.
I hate Gove for his time at DfE more than any living human. I wish him pain. But he was democratically elected by his constituents. He was appointed in a coalition government- which is something PR-supporting electoral reformers consider an inevitable good when FPTP is abolished… Not sure how it’s undemocratic, by my understanding of the term.

 

[Argonia]

Hmm. It came from Gove, I believe. And was quite literally the least terrible thing he did to education.
I hate Gove for his time at DfE more than any living human. I wish him pain. But he was democratically elected by his constituents. He was appointed in a coalition government- which is something PR-supporting electoral reformers consider an inevitable good when FPTP is abolished… Not sure how it’s undemocratic, by my understanding of the term.

Agree with apart from "democratically elected by his constituents". Poor abused and bullied people in this country never got a look in. It's over. Goodbye to all that.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Hmm. It came from Gove, I believe. And was quite literally the least terrible thing he did to education.
I hate Gove for his time at DfE more than any living human. I wish him pain. But he was democratically elected by his constituents. He was appointed in a coalition government- which is something PR-supporting electoral reformers consider an inevitable good when FPTP is abolished… Not sure how it’s undemocratic, by my understanding of the term.

I find it highly amusing that Labour are advocating PR now, they weren't interested back in the day when they could win elections.

 

[maomao]

I find it highly amusing that Labour are advocating PR now, they weren't interested back in the day when they could win elections.

They're not advocating PR.

 

[Sasaferrato]

They're not advocating PR.

Labour Campaign for Electoral Reform - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[philosophical]

Maybe the principal British (as well as elsewhere) value to ‘teach’ is to rebel, fight back, resist, question and not to be submissive to authority.
Have that Williamson you tosser.

 

[maomao]

Labour Campaign for Electoral Reform - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That is a campaign group within the Labour party not the line of the PLP itself.

 

[Argonia]

I haven't had a cup of tea yet today. I'm on the tropical juice. I need to rectify this anomaly.

 

[Sasaferrato]

That is a campaign group within the Labour party not the line of the PLP itself.

But lists people within the PLP who are in favour.