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Fuck you pulling rank with your 25 years. And then call me arrogant in the same breath. Cunt.
No matter, everything you've written is arrogant. I don't have to have been in the job for longer than you for that to be true.
Maybe reflect on that instead of calling me a cunt.
 
No matter, everything you've written is arrogant. I don't have to have been in the job for longer than you for that to be true.
Maybe reflect on that instead of calling me a cunt.

You've not read what I've written. I've said nothing slagging off colleagues, you tell me I have. You tell me I've damned all parents, I clearly haven't.

The only bit you actually read was the bit pertaining to you. Everything else, you just assumed you knew better and pissed all over it. That's arrogance mate.
 
You said some teachers will send home useless work and call that a job done. Not exactly a flattering depiction of your colleagues.
And you've said plenty about parents, I never said ALL, that's your spin, but you've been very damning of some.

Let me be straight, slagging off teachers and families is a Tory cunt's trick so if you don't want to sound like one, lay off.
 
Maybe stop fucking slagging me off then.
I'm calling you out on what you've said, I don't agree with it and I think it's part of a lot of reactionary thinking that has permeated education.
To my knowledge of you as a poster on these boards, you are not usually in that camp. But that's how those statements have come across and I will say what I think of them.
 
You said some teachers will send home useless work and call that a job done. Not exactly a flattering depiction of your colleagues.

I've also said nobody's got time to provide suitable home learning resources alongside doing their normal job. Not given the number of long-term absentees we're dealing with. Often teachers will be told to send stuff home by management people who know full well that it's largely useless, but who are ticking their own box about having made somebody else do something for long-term absentees.

If I hear from parents asking me for stuff, I'll generally go over and above and send them a proper set of adapted resources together with guidance on how to use them. But the fact of there being a contingent of parents who want an education delivered to their child without making any effort to motivate said child to actually learn, whether at home or in school, that's not up for debate. We see it every day.
 
I've also said nobody's got time to provide suitable home learning resources alongside doing their normal job. Often teachers will be told to send stuff home by management people who know full well that it's largely useless, but who are ticking their own box about having made somebody else do something for long-term absentees.

If I hear from parents asking me for stuff, I'll generally go over and above and send them a proper set of adapted resources together with guidance on how to use them. But the fact of there being a contingent of parents who want an education delivered to their child without making any effort to motivate said child to actually learn, whether at home or in school, that's not up for debate. We see it every day.
I wasn't calling out what you do for your students, which is why I clarified when you thought I was saying you were a shit teacher.

It doesn't matter what else you said, you said something very uncollegiate about your colleagues but moreso, you showed contempt for some of the families you serve. Those are probably the families most distrustful of education that you need to access and support the most.

I've said my bit. You can carry on calling me a cunt but don't bring it if you don't want it back.
 
This is why I go straight home on a Friday night. If I was talking shop I'd just end up wanting an argument.
 
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Has anyone tried using AI to plan? I'm a slow producer of materials and often struggle to start things. I also have a very high planning load at the moment. I have a lot of individual needs to plan for and end up doing everything from scratch even though I have folders full of materials. Could it help?
 
Has anyone tried using AI to plan? I'm a slow producer of materials and often struggle to start things. I also have a very high planning load at the moment. I have a lot of individual needs to plan for and end up doing everything from scratch even though I have folders full of materials. Could it help?
We have an amazing head of English who has sent me a link for this. I haven't tried yet but apparently it works amazing.
 
I'm assuming you don't use the Google classroom? If you do, all lessons can be posted. I actually think all schools should have to buy into a system like this, the benefits are also huge for Sen students in lessons.

I think there's a lot of assumptions about parents in this post. The majority of parents want what's best for their children but don't always have the resources to pick up the slack for a failing education system.
Our place uses Google Classroom and all my lessons and resources go up there. It can be really useful. However differentiation, especially for young people with reading/writing and comprehension difficulties, can be really tricky to cater for using GC and this often means that these resources aren't always that useful. Quite a bit of the differentiation I do is done in person with the young people which I try to cater for by recording voice notes/videos but that can be very time consuming.

I had hoped that online learning during COVID would have prompted more funding for schools (lol) to support exactly this but...
 
Tbh I don't think you've said anything wrong or objectionable. I think SpookyFrank could do with stepping back and has been a little unfriendly for a trade thread.
TBF teaching is not your average trade and it is emotive. But still, this is a discussion board so be prepared to discuss what you post.
 
Has anyone tried using AI to plan? I'm a slow producer of materials and often struggle to start things. I also have a very high planning load at the moment. I have a lot of individual needs to plan for and end up doing everything from scratch even though I have folders full of materials. Could it help?
Not to plan, but I've used it to research/make resources. It can be very helpful to differentiate texts as it means I just have to read and edit something, rather than write 2/3 versions of something.

I'd be interested to know what sort of prompts you would use to get it to support planning. And which LLM you would use.

Our place used Co-Pilot because it includes references and we use this to encourage the yp to check the references.

In my personal life I'm very wary of AI, and I don't like a lot of implications it has for culture ans are, but it does make my day to day a lot more manageable.
 
Tbh I don't think you've said anything wrong or objectionable. I think SpookyFrank could do with stepping back and has been a little unfriendly for a trade thread.

Yeah well there's openly unfriendly then there's passive aggressive, rank-pulling, deniably unfriendly. Only one of those communicates genuine disrespect IMO.
 
Our place uses Google Classroom and all my lessons and resources go up there. It can be really useful. However differentiation, especially for young people with reading/writing and comprehension difficulties, can be really tricky to cater for using GC and this often means that these resources aren't always that useful. Quite a bit of the differentiation I do is done in person with the young people which I try to cater for by recording voice notes/videos but that can be very time consuming.

I had hoped that online learning during COVID would have prompted more funding for schools (lol) to support exactly this but...
Yes, in person is always better for differentiation but Google classroom is helpful for accessing those at home who are able to.
In class GC is great for Sen as it reduces unnecessary writing load, enables them to go back to slides that would usually disappear and have access to self marking and checking sheets, live marking etc. that's if they're working on laptops of course.
 
Yeah well there's openly unfriendly then there's passive aggressive, rank-pulling, deniably unfriendly. Only one of those communicates genuine disrespect IMO.
I was trying to be polite at first but you made that impossible very early on in the discussion. So if you think the cunting and fucking is a better way to do that, I can do that too.
 
Yes, in person is always better for differentiation but Google classroom is helpful for accessing those at home who are able to.
In class GC is great for Sen as it reduces unnecessary writing load, enables them to go back to slides that would usually disappear and have access to self marking and checking sheets, live marking etc. that's if they're working on laptops of course.
Completely agree. In class is where I've found it most useful, especially being able to either set specific work for specific students, or (my preference) giving them a wide selection of work to choose from so they can pick their own level.
 
Having said this I am getting sick of the tiny amount of templates (and even fewer actually usable ones) on Google Slides and cba to spend time making my own.
 
I was trying to be polite at first but you made that impossible very early on in the discussion.

No you weren't, you were jumping down my throat about an honest description of my experiences of doing this job. For no reason besides making yourself feel superior.

Turns out you can't ignore your own thread. I'll just ignore you instead.
 
No you weren't, you were jumping down my throat about an honest description of my experiences of doing this job. For no reason besides making yourself feel superior.

Turns out you can't ignore your own thread. I'll just ignore you instead.
Feel free. You said some shit stuff and was called out for very real reasons that I have explained and have nothing to do with me personally.

Now you're behaving like even more of a cunt.
 
Has anyone tried using AI to plan? I'm a slow producer of materials and often struggle to start things. I also have a very high planning load at the moment. I have a lot of individual needs to plan for and end up doing everything from scratch even though I have folders full of materials. Could it help?
I use it a bit but mostly it serves as a means to tell me why it is wrong.

It's a bit like how Holmes uses Watson
 
The kind of thing I was hoping it might be able to do was eg. finely differentiated or even bespoke writing frames, creating PowerPoints to a formula and keeping track of quiz questions and quote repeating cycles. I would still be setting learning objectives and doing all the teaching.
 
Man are staff rooms like this?

Glad we don't have one. We save the bitching to behind people's backs. Mostly at the pub.

The thread title was intended as a joke. I didn't actually want to replicate the experience of having a bunch of running-out-the-clock-until-retirement mediocrities talking to me like I'm an idiot and telling me that my experiences of doing my job aren't valid.

Actually our staff room at work isn't like that. It's generally understood that complaining about some parents, some kids and some colleagues is a key survival strategy in what can sometimes be a gruelling job. I've never questioned anyone's dedication to doing that job because they've had a moan about someone. Not least because only a delusional person would genuinely suggest that all their colleagues, all their students and all their families were above reproach. From the number of safeguarding reports our work requires, that's manifestly not the case.

I'm not a great teacher every single hour of every day. But I never give up on a lesson, a class or a student. I speak to all parents with respect even when they talk to me like I'm shit on their shoes. And at my best, I'm an excellent teacher. I've got a right to an opinion. I've got a right to not have things I say dismissed out of hand. Particularly on a thread I started so my colleagues on here could have a space to do exactly that.
 
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