SWP expulsions and squabbles

[bolshiebhoy]

In context of Smith and anti-semitism. Birds of a feather?

Fuck off. You ever stood with that cunt in brick lane against the anti Semites?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Gilad:

Once again leading UK AZZs , their Sabbath Goyim (Laurie Penny and Richard Seymour) and Islamophobic Hasbara outlet Harry’s Place have been caught together in bed. The exact same Judeocentric tribal coalition that, a year and a half ago, was formed to wreck my career (and failed) is now pursuing Martin Smith AKA Comrade Delta, former secretary of the UK SWP (Socialist Workers Party) who, they insist, is a ‘sex offender’.

Say it sister!

 

[manny-p]

Gilad:



Say it sister!

jeez

 

[cesare]

any one apart form Solfed involved?

http://infantile-disorder.blogspot....ainst-cuts-occupy-town-hall.html?spref=tw&m=1

 

[The39thStep]

Do you think there is any chance that Richard Seymour could go out with Laurie Penny? A bit like Kylie and Jason?

 

[emanymton]

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/sax-offender-vs-progressive-rapists.html

It's all become clear to me now the civil war currently waging within the SWP is nothing to do with democracy or the appalling treatment of women making accusations of sexual harassment and rape. No the truth is that this is a war being fought between those who like Jazz and those who do not, all the rest is mere pretense.

We should all have seen this days ago when the mask first slipped and the following appeared on Lenin's Tomb

At its most extreme, the sycophancy appears cult-like. A number of CC members are big fans of jazz music. Under their leadership over the past few years, the party has organised a number of (mostly loss-making) jazz gigs as fundraising events. Regardless of their own musical tastes, comrades were told they were disloyal if they didn't purchase tickets. This elevates the cultural tastes of the official leadership to a point of political principle; and clearly is not in any way a healthy state of affairs.

But instead of seeing the truth we simply scoffed.

We can seen just how deep rooted this conflict is within the SWP when we consider that one of the leading dissidents is no other than China Mieville (if that is in fact his real name, I question the fact that any parent would call their child China), a man who's first novel to make it big was Perdido street station.

Perdido also of course being the name of a jazz song famously performed by Duke Elliington. Coincidence? I think not!

A naive person my think that the title of Mieville's book was a result of his own love of Jazz. However I think the real story is now clear. The fact of the matter is that in the book the station is closing tired the the oppressive and brutal regime that rule over New Crobuzon, the city where the story takes place. The whole Novel therefore is nothing less than an attack on the SWP CC and their love of Jazz.

 

[The39thStep]

http://infantile-disorder.blogspot....ainst-cuts-occupy-town-hall.html?spref=tw&m=1

That's a no then

 

[articul8]

I asked: Why and where have you now brought this up? When were you first aware of this claim? I'll also ask what the claim actually is and where it was made as you seem resistant to publishing it.

The claim is in the latest NFB and not online. I have no idea whether it is or isn't true. I do know that "jewboy" is not the language you would expect from an anti-fascist.

 

[cesare]

That's a no then

What, apart from Brum Against Cuts, and called by Liverpool Against Cuts, you mean?

 

[BigTom]

any one apart form Solfed involved?

Two of us from Birmingham and Liverpool against the cuts people, don't know how many of them were solfed as well. Others who'd come from Newcastle and Manchester had to leave before we went to the council house

 

[butchersapron]

The claim is in the latest NFB and not online. I have no idea whether it is or isn't true. I do know that "jewboy" is not the language you would expect from an anti-fascist.

Type the claim out.

 

[emanymton]

blimey, when did he become a Green??!!

I was thinking that I remember him when he was in the SWP.

 

[The39thStep]

What, apart from Brum Against Cuts, and called by Liverpool Against Cuts, you mean?

I counted six in the picture which included two taking pictures.

 

[two sheds]

Type the claim out.

Say 'please'.

 

[articul8]

Type the claim out.

From memory it was to the effect that MS had referred to Gable as "that jewboy" at a meeting gable had recently vacated.

 

[butchersapron]

From memory it was to the effect that MS had referred to Gable as "that jewboy" at a meeting gable had recently vacated.

Got to be better than that ffs.

 

[articul8]

I don't remember beyond that, but I remember being shocked that kind of term being used

 

[The39thStep]

It's all become clear to me now the civil war currently waging within the SWP is nothing to do with democracy or the appalling treatment of women making accusations of sexual harassment and rape. No the truth is that this is a war being fought between those who like Jazz and those who do not, all the rest is mere pretense.

We should all have seen this days ago when the mask first slipped and the following appeared on Lenin's Tomb


But instead of seeing the truth we simply scoffed.

We can seen just how deep rooted this conflict is within the SWP when we consider that one of the leading dissidents is no other than China Mieville (if that is in fact his real name, I question the fact that any parent would call their child China), a man who's first novel to make it big was Perdido street station.

Perdido also of course being the name of a jazz song famously performed by Duke Elliington. Coincidence? I think not!

A naive person my think that the title of Mieville's book was a result of his own love of Jazz. However I think the real story is now clear. The fact of the matter is that in the book the station is closing tired the the oppressive and brutal regime that rule over New Crobuzon, the city where the story takes place. The whole Novel therefore is nothing less than an attack on the SWP CC and their love of Jazz.

SolFed's music review of the year doesn't seem to have any jazz in it at all. its almost like jazz has been written out of history

http://infantile-disorder.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/2012-in-music-disappointment-and-promise.html?m=1

 

[cesare]

SolFed's music review of the year doesn't seem to have any jazz in it at all. its almost like jazz has been written out of history

http://infantile-disorder.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/2012-in-music-disappointment-and-promise.html?m=1

Not Solfed btw

 

[butchersapron]

I don't remember beyond that, but I remember being shocked that kind of term being used

Well back it up. Don't just throw it out there.

 

[articul8]

Hard to do as I don't have the original context to refer to, and in any case its an allegation about an off-the-cuff remark. Just wondering why he's not kicked off about it. He either doesn't know the claim was made (quite possible) or its true.

 

[The39thStep]

Not Solfed btw

whose site is it?

 

[butchersapron]

Hard to do as I don't have the original context to refer to, and in any case its an allegation about an off-the-cuff remark. Just wondering why he's not kicked off about it. He either doesn't know the claim was made (quite possible) or its true.

When you get home type up what was said.

 

[BigTom]

I counted six in the picture which included two taking pictures.

12 to 15 people i think. Didn't count though, but definitely more than 6.

 

[articul8]

I am just off out - haven't kept the nfb though

 

[The39thStep]

12 to 15 people i think. Didn't count though, but definitely more than 6.

Photo obviously doesn't do the protest justice.

 

[cesare]

whose site is it?

One of the other people involved (which was what you asked). I don't know who it is.

 

[butchersapron]

I am just off out - haven't kept the nfb though

So this is like 6th hand?

 

[belboid]

whose site is it?

I think he's now unaffiliated, but was in one of the smaller trot groups. Now more of a syndicalist, but not in SolFed

 

[frogwoman]

Don't expect a massive advance, but good luck with it.

In the story the country is ruled by a group who originated as a split from the SP, trying not to make it too obvious though