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leyton96 said:
Looks like Richard Seymour has landed himself into some hot water with the intersectionalistas!

http://thecharnelhouse.org/2014/01/23/live-by-intersectionality-die-by-intersectionality/

There are screen grabs of a thread from Tim Nelson's facebook in the link. It's utterly demented.
I'm not at all ashamed to say I find the monstering he's getting delicious. However, I'll have to ask the landlord to keep a big box of tissues and a mop handy for Apology Bhoy when he reads it.
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I can't work out what's going on here but I strongly suspect everybody involved needs to die, if only for the good of humanity.
 
SpackleFrog said:
I can't work out what's going on here but I strongly suspect everybody involved needs to die, if only for the good of humanity.
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Well I don't know about dying. I think a lot of these intersectionalista/identity politics types are a lot like terriers. They have good instincts and if they are given proper obedience training, with lots of monitoring and keeping on a short leash they can actually be quite useful. But if they don't get that basic training at a young age they just wander round the place biting people and causing a nuisance.
 
leyton96 said:
Well I don't know about dying. I think a lot of these intersectionalista/identity politics types are a lot like terriers. They have good instincts and if they are given proper obedience training, with lots of monitoring and keeping on a short leash they can actually be quite useful. But if they don't get that basic training at a young age they just wander round the place biting people and causing a nuisance.
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:D
 
discokermit said:
when were women forced into missionary position?
how is it more difficult to orgasm?
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Lie back and think of England isn't that long ago is it? I think the church had something to do with it.

It's more difficult to orgasm than being on top because it's harder to control stimulation of the clitoris and to control the movement of the vaginal muscles. Obviously all women are different and maybe the young women of today are all super multi-orgasmic beings in all positions but this was fairly common knowledge when I was younger, as was the experience of many women not being able to orgasm at all with penetration alone, as was the experience of faking so the man would hurry up and finish.

Caveat: I am one woman in a world of women enjoying sex in all sorts of ways....
 
Someone on my facebook just posted this statement from the ISN steering committee - gotta be about the SEYMOUR! race play bunfight, surely?
Dear comrades,
Some of you may have seen, on Facebook and elsewhere, that there has been a serious disagreement breaking out in some parts of the Network recently. Three members, including a steering committee member, engaged in a long argument with a number of people, including a number of black RS21 and IS Network members regarding "race play", and many felt, including an overwhelming majority of steering committee members, that their opinions on the subject were deeply problematic with regards to racial and gender politics, and further than their tone and method of handling criticism was not in keeping with the spirit of allowing people to challenge their own oppression.
Furthermore, you may have seen circulating among RS21 and IS Network members a discussion between some IS Network members, including two steering committee members, about plans to leave the Network and join RS21. While this is a pity, and a failure on our part in some respects given that we have a responsibility to all our members, we hope that any such a move can be done in as amicable and fraternal way as possible. Charlotte B, one of those steering committee members, has resigned already, so we felt the need to inform members as we don't want to hide such disagreements. To be clear, Charlotte was not involved in any of the arguments about race-play referred to above, but this was the context in which these divisions came to light.
We remain committed to full transparency, and the right of minorities in the Network to express disagreements. We hope that other participants in that discussion will remain in the Network, and we welcome a recent platform document which hopefully will allow these discussions and debates to be conducted openly and in a serious and comradely manner.
IS Network Steering Committee
(Magpie C dissented from the above message and did not support its circulation)
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Magpie C lol - surely these people don't even take themselves seriously?
 
belboid said:
The leavers, it appears to me, were looking for an excuse to leave anyway.

And it's handed to them on a plate :facepalm:
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Quite possibly true, but had they had any lingering doubts the race play nonsense and ensuing debate would have quickly dissipated them.
On a more positive note, it looks like RS21 is now serious about building an organisation sooner rather than later.
 
SpineyNorman said:
. . . this statement from the ISN steering committee . . .
Some of you may have seen, on Facebook and elsewhere . . .
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typical lack of Network chauvinism ('patriotism' is the wrong word): why isn't the discussion on the ISN website? (But then this Steering Cttee statement on fb isn't yet on the ISN website: shows the SC's priorities.)

"Three members, including a steering committee member . . ."
who? Typical lack of ISN transparency

"Furthermore, you may have seen circulating among RS21 and IS Network members a discussion between some IS Network members, including two steering committee members, about plans to leave the Network and join RS21 . . ."
ditto

"While this is a pity, and a failure on our part . . ."
typical SWP technique of not saying what the failure is

"we hope that any such a move can be done in as amicable and fraternal way as possible . . ."
sexist: "fraternal". Where have all the cdes. gone? To RS21?

"Charlotte B, one of those steering committee members, has resigned already, so we felt the need to inform members as we don't want to hide such disagreements . . ."
so why no identification of who left the Steering Cttee & resigned from ISN in November & December?

"We remain committed to full transparency . . ."
hardly "full" - semi-opaque more like

"(Magpie C dissented from the above message and did not support its circulation)"
Magpie the Suppressor!

The class demand answers from the ISN teachers!!!!
 
Nigel Irritable said:
No. The other side I think.
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He's not confused Nigel for gods sake - he just wants to suggest that all outside the SWP as supportive of oddball racist stuff. Oddly enough, when his mates on here (the swp kids who pushed and pushed identity politics and chest prodding shouts of racism that he later tactically 'turned against') were defending anti-white racism or similar, as a righteous reaction to structural white racism he was right behind them. An intersectionalist before the intersectionalists.
 
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