butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That whole submission is pretty astonishing.
SWP expulsions and squabbles
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Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
The oddest part about the deeply wtf quote mentioned above is that the rest of the piece it's in isn't nuts at all.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
you just have to think that she means 'guilty of everything except the one thing we found him specifically not guilty of' - I mean no one could possibly mean to write what she actually did
discokermit
Well-Known Member
they should colour code the things. and does anybody read the 'head in the sand' contributions? you know, the ones where they recruited fifty* people in the last month.
*membership criteria now being reduced to 'established eye contact with' and even this number is inflated.
*membership criteria now being reduced to 'established eye contact with' and even this number is inflated.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
'head in the sand' was the first one I read! Its ace.
No, I know thats not what you meant. I will read some of the utterly delusional ones later, they tend to be amusing at least
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
well, where is 'Sheffield University'? Do they mean SHU or the university. I suspect they mean both added together
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Not quite. It says that they had roughly 2,500 members paying some kind of sub, some of them not regularly, before the shit hit the fan.
More generally, there is something deeply bizarre about an article which purports to be setting out the financial position of the organisation, but in fact includes no useful information at all. The little pie charts are completely useless because they include neither the sums represented nor, and this is actually more important, do they show the relative size of the income and outgoing pies even in a general sense.
Now, given that this document was always going to appear on the internet, it's not unreasonable to keep financial information out of it. But why then put the piece in in the first place? Does the SWP allow its members to see its accounts at conference?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
good point - it says they've lost another 300 since those figures were released.
you did used to get something - not a lot, a one page overview, similar to what they have published but with actual amounts in
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
I wonder if they still do? And if so, if it includes assets and debts or only the year's income and expenditure.
Also, why an overview rather than more detailed accounts?
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Most of the UAF articles are complete gibberish. Almost unreadable, and by that I don't just mean that the politics are confused and the claims tendentious, although I do mean both those things,
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fantastic stuff. Hard as glass and clear as steel.
Karmickameleon
Too long in exile
Good question! But she seems to be saying that she has acquired the highest degree of proletarian class consciousness possible this side of the revolution. This ominisience means that she is uniquely able to judge a friend/comrade accused or rape and "to perceive and act upon that comrades' (sic) actions from the point of view of what is in the interests of the proletariat" (!!!)
This would appear to be a re-run of Corin Redgrave's line on the soon-to-be disgraced Healy: “If this (ie building the party) is the work of a rapist, let’s recruit more rapists.”
Horrendous stuff.
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
The weyman scandal is wonderful. Page 60-61.
Presumably the same technology used to fake the planes crashing into the wtc on 9/11 was used by the bbc to invent a holographic Bennett
Presumably the same technology used to fake the planes crashing into the wtc on 9/11 was used by the bbc to invent a holographic Bennett
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
I will admit to having a bit of a soft spot for articles by well meaning fools. Chris (Truro) stands out in this edition.
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
Page 131 has a article complaining about the length of bulletins!
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
And seeking to limit non-CC contributions to 800 words!
Karmickameleon
Too long in exile
His heart is in the right place, but - of course - he's very unlikely to convince any IdooMers or indeed waiverers. I found myself warming to him as I read his piece, unlike Rhetta who sent a chill down my spine.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
I just like the idea of Callinicos working in a Scottish granite quarry or organising Lithuanian farm labourers in Cornwall for a few years. Plus, I enjoyed his insistence that joining the maggotty sectarian Socialist Party is worse than death.
Karmickameleon
Too long in exile
Karmickameleon
Too long in exile
Yes, it's the only piece in IB3 (so far) that has had me laughing out loud a couple of times. A great antidote to the general depression!
BK Double Stack
Reconstructed Marcyite
In the US, the "group in political solidarity with the CWI" (McCarthyite laws require that language) thought about changing its name recently. I'll submit "maggotty sectarian Socialist Party" into any future debate.
Oisin123
So Much for Subtlety
This one is intended to make M sound heroic, but somehow fails to impress. At Genoa, in front of the
Carabinieri, who were about to attack: '[M] appeared from nowhere, took control of the situation and got us all sitting in a corner together with our hands raised.'
Carabinieri, who were about to attack: '[M] appeared from nowhere, took control of the situation and got us all sitting in a corner together with our hands raised.'
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
She is proletarian woman - hear her roar!
Oisin123
So Much for Subtlety
Skip - boring. Skip - 'we recruited well this week'. Skip - 'I've just invented this great scheme'. Read a bit of Pat S. Skip ... woa. WOA. You are all so right about Rhetta. That contribution must surely make her own side cringe. Her belief that she is free from bias in this case - because if you believe otherwise, revolution is impossible - immediately disqualifies her as someone suitable to have been judging it.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Its madness complete madness. All she has actually active is the highest level of arrogance possible. But anyone with has meet her would already know this.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Pat Stack's article was quite amusing, particularly his Priest analogy. It's useful to remember that many of the stupid assumptions and attitudes of CC members are results of their cosseted isolation and arrogance more than marrow deep malice.
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Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Also Bob from Birmingham: what a fucking prick.
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