SWP expulsions and squabbles
- Thread starter Nigel Irritable
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Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
It's not a game. You've been asked about these important "tactical" considerations pretty straightforwardly a bunch of times now, and on each occasion you've danced around answering. A cynic might suggest that the only tactical considerations in play are more to do with your employment strategy than that guff about working class interests.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
it is so obvious it barely needs an answer - to reinforce an oppositional pole of attraction in the only organisation to which millions can look to boot out the hated coalition parties, and engage in battle over how far Labour will impose its own brand of austerity or develop an alternative, building the influence and credibility of anti-austerity politics in the process. Of course this means linking up from the start with all the extra-parliamentary forces already opposing austerity.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Pole of attraction lol.
Battle lol.
Building the influence lol.
develop a labour alternative lol.
Battle lol.
Building the influence lol.
develop a labour alternative lol.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
It's so delusional that an answer serves mainly to reveal the lack of thought at work.
What "oppositional pole of attraction"? There isn't one. The Labour left is a barely twitching corpse. What "battle"? The one that was comprehensively lost decades ago? Through what structures? Those that have been abolished. With what forces? Imaginary ones. We'd get as much sense trying to argue strategy with the voice dial function on a smartphone.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Pathetic star-struck wretch.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Good fucking God. Seriously? This is what your "tactics" come down to? You have an irrelevant backbencher, a cherubic journalist and a union bureaucrat on your side? Do they let you clean their shoes?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
you care to dispute my assertion they have more influence and weight in terms of shifting the terms of debate than your own sect? Whose latest electoral vehicle managed to poll slightly less than half the vote of the Monster Raving Looney's at the last parliamentary by-election? Seriously?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
The mad thing is that despite their connections and in one case leadership of a massive organisation they do not currently have any more power to shift the debate than the leaders of a tiny and slightly nutty extremist group
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Sometimes you are surprisingly stupid.
SpineyNorman
Inappropriate content removed
The SWP has started posting on LU sites, arguing the 'internal labour left' will be the key pole of attraction for those who want to challenge austerity, a line direct from the Prof
oh, and they are already attending nascent Left Unity meetings, which is the kiss of death, imo..
oh, and they are already attending nascent Left Unity meetings, which is the kiss of death, imo..
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Yes. Why on earth would you think that is not what has happened? No conclusion has yet been reached.
oskarsdrum
Active Member
One_Stop_Shop
Well-Known Member
Statement about Steve Hedley from the woman he gave a load of sexist abuse to on Facebook:
http://sexxxypolitics.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/my-experience-of-steve-hedley-and.html?spref=fb
http://sexxxypolitics.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/my-experience-of-steve-hedley-and.html?spref=fb
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
tenniselbow
Active Member
Trying to detoxify the brand. Nice.
tenniselbow
Active Member
This has been out there for a while. Not sure the commentary adds much as the FB comments really speak for themselves. Glad the woman involved is speaking out though. Truly vile conduct.
oskarsdrum
Active Member
That piece is seriously weird. What could the Indy possibly gain from it?? It's like interviewing James Murdoch and not asking about phone hacking!
Could Orr be planning a more fundamental detoxification though, through the only way the CC knows - culling the clowns at the heart of it all? Kimber and Callinicos? How about it? Big gambit it's true but they got shot of Rees for less.....
Could Orr be planning a more fundamental detoxification though, through the only way the CC knows - culling the clowns at the heart of it all? Kimber and Callinicos? How about it? Big gambit it's true but they got shot of Rees for less.....
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Note the deliberate attempt to actually look and dress like comrade delta - into proper cult territory there.
tenniselbow
Active Member
Yeah it's amazing no mention was made. Reads like a real puff piece. Definitely targeting the Indy readers as the acceptable face of revolutionary socialism.
yes! i wondered what was creeping me out about the pic. fucking hell.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
they were a couple for years and couples can start to dress like each other. anyway, a massive amount of people in their forties dress like that. mod-life crisis.
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