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can you give you an example of an organisation that supplies more, and a wider range of Revolutionary (R) educational material than the SWP?
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(R) Anybody who would like to see an end to capitalist mode of social organisation and a transition to a classless mode of social existence.

What's that got to do with the price of fish? Mad biblical cunts tend to provide a plethora of one-sided commentaries on the bible. It doesn't mean their interpretations are right, you dimwit. :facepalm:
 
What's that got to do with the price of fish? Mad biblical cunts tend to provide a plethora of one-sided commentaries on the bible. It doesn't mean their interpretations are right, you dimwit. :facepalm:
just in case you are too thick :D

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it's not too ridiculous to suggest that the biter was seen by the leadership as worthy of promotion precisely because of his tendency to physical violence, to ensure that the pure bloody members were discouraged from stepping out of line in thought or deed.
I don t think anybody else would suggest this.
 
Nobody enjoys this stuff butchers. The hackiest loyalist I know wishes a certain person had kept their dick in their trousers and behaved differently. Thats obvious. Being forced to get down to brass tacks and define what you basically believe is good for the soul though. And if it hadn't been this case then SEYMOUR! Would have found another reason to have a go. The seeds were sown when the party failed to hegemonise people it recruited after Millbank.

thats what rape is? "keeping their dick in their trousers and behaving differently"?
 
Your original post was to suggest that only middle class types would care so and that alternately we have the battle hardened w/c SWP here. We are not middle class. You, as people like you always do, try that first, then you run away from the implications of both your class and the make up of the party.
What makes you an expert on my class boss?
 
You're answering the wrong clause in that sentence. I'd feel bad about teaching you to read english grammar correctly if you weren't so keen on doing it to all of us boss.
I have never once corrected anyone on here for their gammar. You're wrong

Now, if you can answer this:

What does the promotion of a working class militant to the cc of the swp years ago say about me?

(Note i didn't answer, i asked)
 
In this context, politically-indoctrinate them so that the SWP's political thought is the hegemonic (dominant) position in their political mindset - their "default setting" as it were.
Would this be an example of "hegemonising" (as I said, I'd never heard the word before):
Members will normally be admitted as candidates, to go through six months of education, training and disciplined activity before being admitted as full activists. A branch or fraction may, at the end of six months, extend the candidate period if it judges that the above requirements have not been fulfilled adequately. In such a case the candidate has the right to appeal to the Executive Committee. Candidates do not have the right to vote in the AWL.
It's not from the SWP. I don't think the SWP have candidate members, do they? Which presumably makes it easier to join/be recruited.

But I see that Weekly Worker who are among their fiercest critics do. In fact it seems to fit in perfectly with your explanation of the word:
Also up for discussion and voting was a proposal from the Provisional Central Committee to introduce a six-month period of candidate membership for new recruits. During this time comrades would take on the duties of full members without voting rights, and go through an induction process involving study of the Draft programme.(...)
More contentious - although in the end it was overwhelmingly carried - was the PCC motion proposing that henceforth there will be a six-month period of candidate membership for new recruits. This would involve the individual fulfilling all the duties of membership (attending party events, paying appropriate dues, accepting the Draft programme, etc), although candidate members would not have the right to vote during this period.
The motion, introduced by PCC member John Bridge, also included the proposition that candidate members undertake a guided course of study based on the Draft programme to ensure that future members took seriously and had a good grasp of our central precepts - not least the need for democratic left unity within a party based on Marxism. Comrade Bridge proposed that the length of this period of candidate membership could be reduced or even dispensed with entirely if the PCC thought that an individual comrade already had sufficient experience and understanding.
These examples would seem to confirm what I said about lots of groups engaging in "hegemonising".
 
I love how the promotion of a working class militant to the cc has upset so many anarchists. Says bundles about you.
Not just anarchists. And although you repeatedly define him as a working class militant, I reserve that term for those who have or had jobs and who gave a lead to other workers. Long before this crisis I cringed at the faux proletarian tough-guy culture of those around Martin Smith and I see MB as sharing the same thuggish and exaggeratedly workerist attitude. Such pose might be good for impressing former Trinity students, but it is far, far, away from the world of the miners, say, of my old branch in Doncaster, or people like Frank Henderson, the life-long organiser of car workers.
 
Not just anarchists. And although you repeatedly define him as a working class militant, I reserve that term for those who have or had jobs and who gave a lead to other workers. Long before this crisis I cringed at the faux proletarian tough-guy culture of those around Martin Smith and I see MB as sharing the same thuggish and exaggeratedly workerist attitude. Such pose might be good for impressing former Trinity students, but it is far, far, away from the world of the miners, say, of my old branch in Doncaster, or people like Frank Henderson, the life-long organiser of car workers.
Trinity students? Yes I was one of the few North Siders allowed in. Christ you're all at it. I'll almost take this ad hominem class background stuff from butchers (mainly cause he's better at it than you) but I ain't having it from a doctor of Medieval History.
 
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