SWP expulsions and squabbles
- Thread starter Nigel Irritable
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think we need some proper nuclear maths on that board.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Just heard someone describe the Faction as the SWP's very own House of Lords revolt.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's excellent.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Smith, Kimber and a few seats.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
What happens to the Seymourites? What happens to the fulltimers pushed out of their jobs? Does a "lame duck" CC and apparatus largely stay in place?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Depends if they are in the faction or not. I can't see them cohering without SEYMOUR! whipping them and i think he's on his way out of organised party politics. The fulltimers were made fulltimers precisely because of their dull inability to collectively challenge the CC - without a strong lead (and let's face it, China is not it) they are going nowhwere. A few penititi and they'l crumble without Seymour - if the lords go, as i expect, down the path of negotiation as far as possible.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can't see an oval board this end...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Stalin's left turn to forced industrialisation in 1928 - split the trot opposition as it looked like (and really was) their own program. The CC are doing the same manouvere with their published need for a "sharp ideological turn". They're going to more like the opposition than the opposition soon - once the immediate danger is dealt with.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
thing is, the cc are massively incompetent, as they have shown. so far, their attempts to split the opposition have done the opposite, unifying them (to some extent) and drawing in others. callinicos is no fighter.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Totally agree, in their minds this is what they are doing though - they've shown that they don't have the basic competence to do it or to to even create the conditions that might allow them to try it.
I watched 5 minutes of a kimber video last night - this is not someone who could make a rooster fight.
I watched 5 minutes of a kimber video last night - this is not someone who could make a rooster fight.
Oisin123
So Much for Subtlety
Heads, lots of heads and apologies.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
8 great albums then they ruin it all by this
Athos
Well-Known Member
It's not his role in the party.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Have you heard the Claire Denis soundtracks by them?
Disappointed, but not surprised, that my old branch isn't on any of those lists.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
it's his role in the faction.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yep, and by god i'm glad staples didn't mumble all over them - although he does some i think.
binka
!!!!!!!!!
if you'd actually bothered to read his book butchers then you'd know that he makes it very clear that he went to private school on a scholarship and certainly isn't anything like the rest of those oxbridge types
Stewart Lee is fantastic. Anyone who says differently is wrong. He also made a joke in the last show that many on here would have appreciated...
"1 in 2 people who claim to be a spokesperson for the entire British muslim community is in fact the unelected leader of a non-democratic special interest fringe group given ideas above it's station by a misguided New Labour community bridge building initiative."
"1 in 2 people who claim to be a spokesperson for the entire British muslim community is in fact the unelected leader of a non-democratic special interest fringe group given ideas above it's station by a misguided New Labour community bridge building initiative."
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Misguided? Good intentions done wrong. Liberal toynbee's son.
Haha yeah I agree. I don't think he pretends he is anything else though.
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