SWP expulsions and squabbles

[butchersapron]

Haha yeah I agree. I don't think he pretends he is anything else though.

It's what he says and thinks about others - others who may like OFAH - that is produced by that background that's the problem.

 

[The39thStep]

I'm forming a platform in Mk12' and Binka's faction on the Stewart Lee issue.

Thinking about OFAH it is probably the most 'do you remember that episode' comedy that you hear talked about in pubs. Years ago , I probably mean decades , you couldn't move for students, rugby types and middle managers repeating the Dead Parrot sketch from Monty Python.

 

[discokermit]

Being funny won't save you come The Day

oh how we laughed as we loaded the rifles.

 

[The39thStep]

Thought this might be of assistance to Dr Ring Ring and some others following this thread

 

[killer b]

Haha yeah I agree. I don't think he pretends he is anything else though.

Except he makes it very clear (apparently) he was a scholarship kid. The good kind of private school/oxbridge dominance.

 

[binka]

he is fantastic. I dont think that stops him from being yet another example of private school / Oxbridge dominance.

he's been crticial of the way comedy on tv is pretty much a closed shop with the same interests controlling the production companies that make the shows and the acts who appear on them:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...at-monopoly-control-of-tv-comedy-8477824.html

obviously he would be aware of the same story for comedians going from oxbridge to the bbc (and similarly oxbridge to politics, business, law etc.) which is one of the reasons theres a lot of utter mediocre shit that passes for comedians (and poiliticans etc) he of course took that route oxford -> bbc radio -> bbc tv.

 

[butchersapron]

Odd thing is, he looks posher and smugger than his mate.

 

[cesare]

Thought this might be of assistance to Dr Ring Ring and some others following this

How very dare you. I'm at a far more advanced stage of learning, thanks to other Oxbridge types:

 

[discokermit]

i hate those sneery python cunts.

 

[cesare]

i hate those sneery python cunts.

I've heard they're not keen on you either.

 

[discokermit]

I've heard they're not keen on you either.

i hope they aren't.

 

[redcogs]

Special conference called - March:

http://internationalsocialismuk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/a-brief-note-on-ccs-call-for-special.html

 

[cesare]

i hope they aren't.

Sneering's not a good look, no matter who's doing it.

 

[butchersapron]

Special conference called - March:

http://internationalsocialismuk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/a-brief-note-on-ccs-call-for-special.html

Blimey. A special conference of a special kind? Those heavyweight names yesterday have totally thrown them - if we can talk of 'them' anymore.

 

[redcogs]

The oppos will be encouraged.

Delta's harakiri can't be far away.

 

[butchersapron]

A special sort of harakiri. See that bus? Get fucking under it - now.

 

[redcogs]

Do i detect the faintest rumbling? - can it be the hackery's boots quaking?

 

[redcogs]

Cmde Kimber - Beware the ides of March..

 

[DrRingDing]

Thought this might be of assistance to Dr Ring Ring and some others following this thread

You are the Nigel Farage of this thread.

 

[discokermit]

response from the opposition, http://internationalsocialismuk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/a-brief-note-on-ccs-call-for-special.html

trying to oppose the timing of the conference. audacious move.

 

[butchersapron]

We tell you when it happens.

 

[sihhi]

Has anyone seen this?
The Prof explaining to Greeks how to fight fascism:

http://www.efsyn.gr/?p=20808

Κατά πρώτον, είμαι ελληνικής καταγωγής, ο πατέρας μου ήταν στο ΕΑΜ κατά τη διάρκεια του αντιφασιστικού πολέμου και είναι φοβερό να βρίσκει υποστήριξη σήμερα ένα καθαρά ναζιστικό κόμμα. Νομίζω ότι η ιστορική εμπειρία της μάχης κατά του φασισμού μπορεί να είναι αρνητική, όπως έδειξε η περίπτωση της Γερμανίας, όπου η έλλειψη ενότητας της Αριστεράς οδήγησε στην άνοδο του Χίτλερ, αλλά, επίσης, και θετική, όπως για παράδειγμα εδώ στην Αγγλία, με την καμπάνια της Αντιναζιστικής Ενωσης εναντίον του ναζιστικού κόμματος.

First of all I am of Greek origin (katagogi), my dad was in EAM for the duration of the anti-fascist war and it is terrible to find today support for a completely Nazi party (komma). I think that the historical experience of the struggle (maxi) against fascism can be negative, as the case of Germany shows, where the absences of unity amongst the lefts led to the rise of Hitler, but, also (episisis) positive, as for example here in England with the campaign of the Anti-Nazi League (avtivastistikis evosis) against the Nazist (vazistikos) party.

Αυτό που έγινε εδώ ήταν ένα πολύ πλατύ ενιαίο μέτωπο, το οποίο κατόρθωσε να ενώσει όλη την Αριστερά, από την ακροαριστερά μέχρι και το Εργατικό Κόμμα, αλλά και τα συνδικάτα. Αυτό όχι στη βάση συνθημάτων του στιλ «οι ναζί είναι κακοί» ή «όλοι μαζί αδελφωμένοι» κ.λπ., αλλά στη βάση της κινητοποίησης στους δρόμους.

What happened/arose here was a very broad (platos) united front, which managed to unite all the left, from far left up to the Labour Party, and even the unions. This was not on the basis of slogans in the style of "the Nazis are bad" or "everyone together fraternally" etc., but on the basis of mobilization (κινητοποίησης) in the streets.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Holy shit. Three possibilities:

1) The CC have bottled it and are in full flight.

2) The CC think that they can use the special conference to pull the "soft" opposition around a compromise position and isolate the radicals.

2) The CC think that they can pull together a comfortable delegate majority in the abbreviated pre-conference period around a hard line position. They can then use the SC like they did the NC as an opportunity to hammer the radicals. Without making any significant concessions they can then keep most of the "soft" opposition as they got their chance, democracy, etc.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Just after putting up the CC statement, Socialist Unity seems to have gone down. It's showing one of those "this page has been registered for one of our customers" signs, as if Newman managed to let the domain registration lapse at the only time his site has served any purpose in years.

 

[pansalar]

Just after putting up the CC statement, Socialist Unity seems to have gone down. It's showing one of those "this page has been registered for one of our customers" signs, as if Newman managed to let the domain registration lapse at the only time his site has served any purpose in years.

Definitely registered to one Andrew Newman, expires June 2013. The plot thickens.

 

[imposs1904]

Definitely registered to one Andrew Newman, expires June 2013. The plot thickens.

too much traffic?

 

[butchersapron]

Too much blusher

 

[cesare]

Just after putting up the CC statement, Socialist Unity seems to have gone down. It's showing one of those "this page has been registered for one of our customers" signs, as if Newman managed to let the domain registration lapse at the only time his site has served any purpose in years.

Those signs sometimes refer to hosting too. So it could be that the hosting is due for renewal (and/or might be in the process of being migrated to a different hosting supplier) rather than the domain registration having run out.

 

[pansalar]

Too much blusher

as in that new Bourjois shade La Choeur de l'Armée Rouge?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Holy shit. Three possibilities:

1) The CC have bottled it and are in full flight.

2) The CC think that they can use the special conference to pull the "soft" opposition around a compromise position and isolate the radicals.

2) The CC think that they can pull together a comfortable delegate majority in the abbreviated pre-conference period around a hard line position. They can then use the SC like they did the NC as an opportunity to hammer the radicals. Without making any significant concessions they can then keep most of the "soft" opposition as they got their chance, democracy, etc.

or

3) all of the above are true at once