SWP expulsions and squabbles

[Spanky Longhorn]

Why would the faction accept them anyway?

Good question it will be more entertaining in my view if the faction reject the platform.

 

[kavenism]

Am I missing something? Where are Seymour and Mieville’s names? Are they going it alone or were they expelled without me noticing?

Ah I see they have their own thing. Two factions outside of conference period. Who'da thunk it!

 

[butchersapron]

Am I missing something? Where are Seymour and Mieville’s names? Are they going it alone or were they expelled without me noticing?

There is a faction - it's from what i think was one of the factions at the conference, the small centrist one. The other lot have declared they want to constitute a platform within that faction - i don't see why they should be allowed to.

 

[Random]

Good question it will be more entertaining in my view if the faction reject the platform.

Sorry, this fraction can only be run on Windows XP

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

it's a platform not a fraction - fractions are industrial.

I wonder if someone will form a pole within the platform? It certainly contains both a tendency and a clique

 

[butchersapron]

it's a platform not a fraction - fractions are industrial.

I wonder if someone will form a pole within the platform?

A mole in the pole on the platform in the fraction of the faction

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I think we could be witnessing the begining of a new direction of matrioshka-leninism within the SWP

 

[The39thStep]

Good question it will be more entertaining in my view if the faction reject the platform.

If they have any sense they will

 

[frogwoman]

Thats 131 people so far i think!

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Thats 131 people so far i think!

for the platform or the faction or the platform and faction combined?

 

[frogwoman]

for the platform or the faction or the platform and faction combined?

both of them

 

[chilango]

...within a movement.

That's what they would like to think.

We know better.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

both of them

It's probably not useful to count them both at the same time for now then until we have confirmation of the factions attitude to the platform...

 

[frogwoman]

but are they going to set up their own fractional organ? This is a matter of extreme importance to the class

 

[ViolentPanda]

ViolentPanda. (well named)

Meaning?
Have I physically assaulted you at some time in the past?

I have tried to post comments on here in a constructive and informative way. I have not tried to take the piss out of anyone. I responded to you sarcastic point about my 40 years in the movement in a factual way. I certanly do not think I have any more working class credentials than any other contributor on this site.

Then why mention them in such a way as to assert "working class credibility"?

Have you ever considered that you come across as an offensive and disruptive individual.

Yes. To most people it doesn't matter as long as I contribute meaningfully. To some people it does, usually those more concerned with style than with substance. If someone says something stupid/ignorant/repellent/crass it's incumbent on everyone else to point that out to them, not to coddle them and/or their attitudes.

Why dont you stop having a go at people and say something constructive.

People? You mean the sort of person who rocks up and tell people they're wrong about X, Y and Z without bothering to explain exactly how they're wrong; who extrapolate their own experiences as representative of the generality of SWP membership; who gob off while adding little or nothing to the mix?
Because that's the sort of person I have a go at. Don't talk shite and you don't get shite.

As for constructive contributions, I make plenty, as my sympathisers and my opposers will attest.

 

[kavenism]

but are they going to set up their own fractional organ? This is a matter of extreme importance to the class

And who the fucks going to play it?! Didn't Steve Reich play fractional organ or was it Philip Glass?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

but are they going to set up their own fractional organ? This is a matter of extreme importance to the class

the pole have their own organ

 

[ViolentPanda]

Sexist!

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

talking of Poles I've just recieved an email confirming that solidarnosc previously of this parish (and many orgs on the far-left) is rejoining the SWP to take up cudgels in both the faction and the platform.

 

[The39thStep]

For those of you whose self sacrifice knows no boundaries ......Barry Biddulph reviews Harman and Cliff

http://thecommune.co.uk/

 

[ViolentPanda]

Now there's an in-joke not many will get.

You under-estimate the degree of Kurt-fandom on Urban, I suspect!

 

[chilango]

the pole have their own organ

Aren't the pole and the organ the same genital?

 

[Red Cat]

Oh fuck, here it comes, the "considerably more working class cred than yow" argument.
That might mean something in the SWP. It means fuck-all when most of the people you're saying it to have the same "credentials".

I think you're out of order. There's no need for your hatred of the SWP to lead you to treat people in such a disrespectful and aggressive way.

 

[butchersapron]

Doomed

 

[The39thStep]

Meaning?
Have I physically assaulted you at some time in the past?



Then why mention them in such a way as to assert "working class credibility"?



Yes. To most people it doesn't matter as long as I contribute meaningfully. To some people it does, usually those more concerned with style than with substance. If someone says something stupid/ignorant/repellent/crass it's incumbent on everyone else to point that out to them, not to coddle them and/or their attitudes.



People? You mean the sort of person who rocks up and tell people they're wrong about X, Y and Z without bothering to explain exactly how they're wrong; who extrapolate their own experiences as representative of the generality of SWP membership; who gob off while adding little or nothing to the mix?
Because that's the sort of person I have a go at. Don't talk shite and you don't get shite.

As for constructive contributions, I make plenty, as my sympathisers and my opposers will attest.

just pm him. We have bigger fish to fry here.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Aren't the pole and the organ the same genital?

how long was Kilgore Trout's penis again I forget?

 

[The39thStep]

talking of Poles I've just recieved an email confirming that solidarnosc previously of this parish (and many orgs on the far-left) is rejoining the SWP to take up cudgels in both the faction and the platform.

straddling the pole

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

straddling the pole

 

[The39thStep]

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I'm going to need to take next week of work sick to keep up with all this