SWP expulsions and squabbles

[Random]

Now there's an in-joke not many will get.

You all know what this is a drawing of *

 

[The39thStep]

a very reliable source - rank and file member. The member told me whilst drunk at the pub.

Seems to be reliable

 

[The39thStep]

his solo album 'the green man' was originally going to be called 'the red flag of the revolution' but his record company wouldn't have it. think he's a member of the AWL these days.

One of Girls Aloud dad's was in the IMG

 

[butchersapron]

The faction declared (pdf)

Note the CPGB URL

/assets/files/swpinternalbulletins/In_Defence_of_Our_Party.pdf

 

[frogwoman]

The faction declared (pdf)

Note the CPGB URL

/assets/files/swpinternalbulletins/In_Defence_of_Our_Party.pdf

Love how they have a dedicated folder for "SWP internal bulletins"

 

[Nigel Irritable]

It's not a unified opposition statement at all. It's a revamped "soft" opposition. Still of note though given who the initial signatories are: Pat S, Ian B, Colin B, mike G etc.

 

[Random]

Pat Stack and Mike Gonzalez!!!!!

 

[butchersapron]

Fuck me some big names on there.

 

[DrRingDing]

Recognition that feminists are not our enemies, but potential allies[/QUOTE]

Potential?!

 

[butchersapron]

I make that 66 - and much more top heavy than i expected.

 

[belboid]

blimey, Charlie Hore, Ian Birchall, both Collins. Bloody decent list

 

[The39thStep]

The faction declared (pdf)

Note the CPGB URL

/assets/files/swpinternalbulletins/In_Defence_of_Our_Party.pdf

There are a few on there that by now must be on a pensionable age.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

It's the sane wing of the old guard plus the saner parts of the third tier leadership desperately trying to avoid a split.

 

[The39thStep]

Recognition that feminists are not our enemies, but potential allies[/QUOTE]

Potential?!

Makes sense to me.

 

[DrRingDing]

1. X to stand down from any paid or representative roles in our party or united front work for the foreseeable future.

So they want him not to be kicked out or even suspended?! Wankers, the lot of em.

 

[butchersapron]

We accept the decisions taken at conference. None of the concerns listed above involve overturning these decisions.

Every point they have retreated on 'until next conference' - so they are now left with a few big names providing cover and the choice put to the CC to put up with a faction for 8 months - which they won't - or get rid. Which might explain the we'll be good but tone...

These are the opposition, the tea-weakened opposition.

 

[belboid]

It's the sane wing of the old guard plus the saner parts of the third tier leadership desperately trying to avoid a split.

and making some very sound points about how the party should operate generally, as well. all very sensible stuff

 

[The39thStep]

So they want him not to be kicked out or even suspended?! Wankers, the lot of em.

I know organising the Firebox workers is a long and difficult process but do try and read events like this with some political understanding.

 

[butchersapron]

At least Renton has been forced out into the open.

 

[butchersapron]

Not much of a geographical spread is it? And much of those are uni prof types.

 

[DrRingDing]

I know organising the Firebox workers is a long and difficult process but do try and read events like this with some political understanding.

I think when someone said you were feminine I think that was code for 'bitch'.

 

[Random]

Not much of a geographical spread is it? And much of those are uni prof types.

Contaminated by academic feminism! /bolshie

 

[butchersapron]

10 from the NC but only 8 votes? 160 signers but 66 members?

 

[DrRingDing]

Not much of a geographical spread is it? And much of those are uni prof types.

I believe the Cambridge one is a manager in her job...and has isolated the only working class people in the local branch.

 

[belboid]

Not much of a geographical spread is it? And much of those are uni prof types.

I am guessing part of that is simply down to ease of organising for the initial statement. Quite a few are the unite members who supported McLuskey for leader and are pissed off at their decision being overturned.

 

[butchersapron]

I am guessing part of that is simply down to ease of organising for the initial statement. Quite a few are the unite members who supported McLuskey for leader and are pissed off at their decision being overturned.

Well come on, it ain't like they haven't had 4 weeks to prepare.

 

[butchersapron]

Every point they have retreated on 'until next conference' - so they are now left with a few big names providing cover and the choice put to the CC to put up with a faction for 8 months - which they won't - or get rid. Which might explain the we'll be good but tone...

These are the opposition, the tea-weakened opposition.

I did miss in the last bit as regard 'next conf':

We aim to conduct an argument within the party so that these concerns are addressed by the next SWP conference, whether a special conference or the next annual conference. In line with the SWP constitution we will dissolve the faction at the end of the next conference

 

[Nigel Irritable]

10 from the NC but only 8 votes? 160 signers but 66 members?

There were three people not at the NC meeting. Also these aren't the Democratic Centralist faction people, particularly at the top end. The CC people and the older big names werent signed up to that, while people like Davidson were. This is a new cast of names adopting the same role.

 

[articul8]

Bunny LaRoche

 

[butchersapron]

Just fuck off eh.