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Still wading my way through the last season of DS9. It's a tough re-watch to be honest. Seasons 5 and 6 were so strong, and Season 7 just seems to go full on Vic Fontaine.

Edging closer to the final 10 eps thou, where the story arc for the finish finally gets going.
 
cybershot said:
Still wading my way through the last season of DS9. It's a tough re-watch to be honest. Seasons 5 and 6 were so strong, and Season 7 just seems to go full on Vic Fontaine.

Edging closer to the final 10 eps thou, where the story arc for the finish finally gets going.
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Too much of the finish relies on the religion and related fantasy. That's one of the factors that lost me.
 
danny la rouge said:
Seven is in it now. She was needed. The interaction between characters was getting stale. She's brought a fresh perspective. It's good to have an alien demeanour to get used to (even though she's human); the species we visit are all too human in their interactions and world views. We know about Vulcans now, so it's good to add a new outlook. The fact that she's blunt, doesn't understand social conventions, and that people find her unsettling are all good for the mix. It's brought life back into the show. She's my favourite character now. Second favourite is the Doctor. Similar reasons.

(Not sure exactly why she needs such a tight uniform, though. Surely a standard uniform would have covered her Borg implants just fine? The Doctor said he designed it. It may seem churlish to complain, but I can't see any actual narrative reason for it).
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o-star Ethan Phillips says those tight costumes make working with Ryan a little "complicated." Ryan says, "For the first costume, if I would do anything other than have my head straight ahead, it cut off my carotid artery. It was so tight that I passed out four times," says Ryan, interviewed on the Voyager set in a new costume that she says is looser but still takes an hour to climb into. The old suit forced her to lie down between scenes to regain her composure. But she didn't complain. "That was my nice Midwestern girl upbringing," she says. "They would bring nurses to the set with oxygen, and I wouldn't say anything. But after the fourth time passing out, I spoke up." Producers quickly refitted the suit. But the new costume has problems of its own. "Forget vanity, throw vanity to the wind! And you can forget anything about privacy, because it ain't gonna happen. Anytime I have to go to the bathroom, everybody has to know about it. It's announced over the P.A. system, because production stops for a half-hour. 'We can't roll a shot. Jeri's not here.' 'Why not, where's Jeri?' 'Jeri has to go 10-100.' It's just a whole procedure." And now to confuse matters even more there is a third costume which premiered in "The Raven."
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Jeri Ryan
 
CNT36 said:
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Jeri Ryan
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The first costume, then - the one that made her pass out - was the still-Borg bodysuit, the second costume the silver one with quilted six pack, and the third one, premièred in the Raven, the brownish one I'm seeing her wear in episodes I'm now up to?

I feel I know much more about this series of costume changes than anyone else's in the franchise.
 
danny la rouge said:
The first costume, then - the one that made her pass out - was the still-Borg bodysuit, the second costume the silver one with quilted six pack, and the third one, premièred in the Raven, the brownish one I'm seeing her wear in episodes I'm now up to?

I feel I know much more about this series of costume changes than anyone else's in the franchise.
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Yeah, that's right. The Raven was the episode where she found her old ship iirc.
 
Amazing that they could design a costume so restrictive they had to have nurses on hand with oxygen :eek: Characters who have to wear face and body paints tend to suffer (it's why Zhaan left Farscape) but at least it's for better reasons than slightly more sex appeal.
 
danny la rouge said:
The first costume, then - the one that made her pass out - was the still-Borg bodysuit, the second costume the silver one with quilted six pack, and the third one, premièred in the Raven, the brownish one I'm seeing her wear in episodes I'm now up to?

I feel I know much more about this series of costume changes than anyone else's in the franchise.
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I think Patrick Stewart got his uniform changed because the first one was causing him musculo-skeletal problems. That's why there's a switch from onesies to tracksuit bottoms and a jumper.
 
Santino said:
I think Patrick Stewart got his uniform changed because the first one was causing him musculo-skeletal problems. That's why there's a switch from onesies to tracksuit bottoms and a jumper.
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You wouldn't think costume designers would be creating things that caused medical problems!
 
If anyone is home the Horror+1 channel is currently showing ST:TOS "The Way to Eden".

Kirk v. Hippies. It's so bad it's good!
 
Santino said:
I think Patrick Stewart got his uniform changed because the first one was causing him musculo-skeletal problems. That's why there's a switch from onesies to tracksuit bottoms and a jumper.
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LeVar Burton also struggled a lot with his visor.
 
danny la rouge said:
Did you really think it was watchable and that other people would want to watch it?
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I watch redlettermedia pretty much whenever they put out something new. I don't like everything about how they do it, but they always make some really good points. I'm not into star trek but found this interesting and so yes, I did think that if someone was into star trek they would find it potentially far more interesting than me. As you mentioned in your post, you didn't make it past the intro so if you are only talking about the first few seconds, I'm not sure there is much to discuss.
 
danny la rouge said:
Fair enough.

The vlogging age really isn't for me. I should probably just keep quite about it though.
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Their reviews are extremely popular. They make a decent living off it. This one was a bit more nerdy.
They make some great insightful points even if the style isn't great. It's the Plinket film reviews of Star trek and star wars that really got them started. I just wish they would lay off the 'funnies' a bit.
 
I agree. Excellent film reviews marred by an irritating presentation. But the review is worth the irritation. The Plinkett analysis of Last Jedi’s failings is particularly insightful.

“You may not have noticed it. But your brain did.”
 
danny la rouge said:
Good luck to them. And I know: lots of YouTubers are very successful. I can't bear to watch any of them though. Which probably puts me in a minority.

Do these guys do written reviews?
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Not that I am aware of. . . but the plinket reviews are obviously written and then just pictured up with footage. HOWEVER, annoyingly they do try to hang a pointless and annoying Mr Plinket backstory along the way. Ruins it a bit in my opinion, but the rest of the content is so good I can skim over it. I can understand why the reviews of them just talking to each other about films can be more of an acquired taste. I don't do any other podcasts/vlogs.
 
All the three first Star Trek spin-offs struggled for the first two seasons. Like TNG and Voyager, DS9 doesn’t really get good till season 3.
 
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