Interesting article in Socialist Review
"Of course immigration swells the labour force and therefore has an impact on the market for jobs and wages. But when you look at the figures you find that this is far from being a straightforward negative effect."
"So an extensive review of Europe's migration experience since the Second World War, published last year, found that most immigration was caused by labour shortages. The study found that immigration could lead to lower wages for unskilled workers. However, it said the effect was usually temporary and that economies reacted by expanding production in sectors that use unskilled labour, eventually pushing wages up once more."
"But the facts show that simply saying "immigration pushes down wages" is wrong."
exactly and see no one from the left me and TB included ever said it was simple ... of course it is complex .. but it is part of the mix ..
but i am glad they have finally admitted there is an issue
they then give us the bullshit about an expanding economy will push up wages generally .. well that maybe generally but it is not at the bottom end
and a lot of mystification of marxism though this is good
"The reserve army of labour helps capitalists hold down wages because it increases competition for jobs, forcing workers to sell themselves for less and to work harder for fear of being replaced. And so you have the contradiction we are all so familiar with today - the unemployed are desperate for jobs, while those in work are desperate to escape the relentless pressures of the working week."
but they fail to see the contradiction that while they say teh unemployed ar edesperate for jobs 1 -- they are DELIBERATELY not being able to get the skills they need and 2 -- many unemployed will actually NOT take jobs at the rates being offerred .. so as i have said to sucram on the refusal thread .. this is why immigration is key at this moment in time ..
http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/article.php?articlenumber=9895
"Of course immigration swells the labour force and therefore has an impact on the market for jobs and wages. But when you look at the figures you find that this is far from being a straightforward negative effect."
"So an extensive review of Europe's migration experience since the Second World War, published last year, found that most immigration was caused by labour shortages. The study found that immigration could lead to lower wages for unskilled workers. However, it said the effect was usually temporary and that economies reacted by expanding production in sectors that use unskilled labour, eventually pushing wages up once more."
"But the facts show that simply saying "immigration pushes down wages" is wrong."
exactly and see no one from the left me and TB included ever said it was simple ... of course it is complex .. but it is part of the mix ..
but i am glad they have finally admitted there is an issue
they then give us the bullshit about an expanding economy will push up wages generally .. well that maybe generally but it is not at the bottom end
and a lot of mystification of marxism though this is good
"The reserve army of labour helps capitalists hold down wages because it increases competition for jobs, forcing workers to sell themselves for less and to work harder for fear of being replaced. And so you have the contradiction we are all so familiar with today - the unemployed are desperate for jobs, while those in work are desperate to escape the relentless pressures of the working week."
but they fail to see the contradiction that while they say teh unemployed ar edesperate for jobs 1 -- they are DELIBERATELY not being able to get the skills they need and 2 -- many unemployed will actually NOT take jobs at the rates being offerred .. so as i have said to sucram on the refusal thread .. this is why immigration is key at this moment in time ..
http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/article.php?articlenumber=9895
of course the article / swp doesn't agree with me!!
