Should the fox hunting ban be lifted?

[UnderOpenSky]

So, fine to inflict harm on living beings that are plant-based, but not animal-based.
Hypocrite.
And don't come the old "plants don't feel it" schtick, hypocrisy-boy. You wouldn't accept it from an angler.

Jesus. I eat meat and call bull shit on that one.

I didn't say I had to eat meat.

Is there a reason for so much intellectual dishonesty?

I've been quite clear; i eat meat because I like meat and don't have a moral issue with it.

Why on earth is it so hard to comprehend that someone might have a problem with their metabolism? Why the fuck do i have to justify that to you?

You eat meat, because you like it. Entertainment. Tbh I'm down with that. I'm just here to highlight the hypocrisy of that when pulling other people up on animal rights.

It's hard to comprehend that people may have a problem with their metabolism when a many people in the world live on a veggie diet. The only thing you stated was that fruit makes you hungry and some piss poor excuses about shops. I suggested that looking at why something high in sugar may cause a spike in blood sugar levels.

 

[brogdale]

Anyone else see Sturgeon's C4 News interview with Gary Gibbon? All that shite about listening to the views of English voters on this issue. I'd have had soooo much more respect if she'd just fessed up and come clean that they did it just to wind-up the vermin.

That said top vermin baiting Jocks!

 

[zxspectrum]

Jesus. I eat meat and call bull shit on that one.



You eat meat, because you like it. Entertainment. Tbh I'm down with that. I'm just here to highlight the hypocrisy of that when pulling other people up on animal rights.

It's hard to comprehend that people may have a problem with their metabolism when a many people in the world live on a veggie diet. The only thing you stated was that fruit makes you hungry and some piss poor excuses about shops. I suggested that looking at why something high in sugar may cause a spike in blood sugar levels.

Who have i pulled up on animal rights? Do you mean people who chase after foxes and take pleasure when they are torn apart by dogs?

You're going to have to explain the hypocrisy here, because that makes no sense to me at all. I'm sure there are plenty of meat eaters that also find fox hunting distasteful. I don't take pleasure in the fact the food i eat is killed, that's the difference. You seem to have a blind spot when it comes o that fact.

Since you are being disrespectful and dismissive there's little point continuing it seems. I have not given you 'piss poor' excuses; I have explained my circumstances and you have continually misrepresented them so I think we're done, don't' you?

 

[butchersapron]

Who have i pulled up on animal rights? Do you mean people who chase after foxes and take pleasure when they are torn apart by dogs?

You're going to have to explain the hypocrisy here, because that makes no sense to me at all. I'm sure there are plenty of meat eaters that also find fox hunting distasteful. I don't take pleasure in the fact the food i eat is killed, that's the difference. You seem to have a blind spot when it comes o that fact.

Since you are being disrespectful and dismissive there's little point continuing it seems. I have not given you 'piss poor' excuses; I have explained my circumstances and you have continually misrepresented them so I think we're done, don't' you?

Don't do it - you almost have a month.

 

[zxspectrum]

Don't do it - you almost have a month.

I don't follow

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Who have i pulled up on animal rights? Do you mean people who chase after foxes and take pleasure when they are torn apart by dogs?

You're going to have to explain the hypocrisy here, because that makes no sense to me at all. I'm sure there are plenty of meat eaters that also find fox hunting distasteful. I don't take pleasure in the fact the food i eat is killed, that's the difference. You seem to have a blind spot when it comes o that fact.

Since you are being disrespectful and dismissive there's little point continuing it seems. I have not given you 'piss poor' excuses; I have explained my circumstances and you have continually misrepresented them so I think we're done, don't' you?

Are you actually new to urban?

You ask questions and then say we're done. I have no blind spot. Personally I'd say this is the blind spot. I eat meat. I'm aware of my actions, which is why I find it so hard to condemn those who hunt on animal welfare issues.

You've explained your circumstances sure. I suggested a new thread where we could talk it through away from this thread. I find it quite interesting as I'm trying to expand the range of food I eat and not follow a meat based diet, not just for animal welfare issues. Shall we do it?

 

[butchersapron]

I don't follow

Oh i think you do.

 

[Spymaster]

I don't kill animals for entertainment, and that's a world away from killing for food.

And round and round we go.

Either say why, or fuck off.

 

[zxspectrum]

Are you actually new to urban?

You ask questions and then say we're done. I have no blind spot. Personally I'd say this is the blind spot. I eat meat. I'm aware of my actions, which is why I find it so hard to condemn those who hunt on animal welfare issues.

You've explained your circumstances sure. I suggested a new thread where we could talk it through away from this thread. I find it quite interesting as I'm trying to expand the range of food I eat and not follow a meat based diet, not just for animal welfare issues. Shall we do it?

By all means.

When i say we're done, i'm referring to global stoner because i see no point when it's clear we are just going to talk past each other. That's just unproductive and pointless.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

By all means.

When i say we're done, i'm referring to global stoner because i see no point when it's clear we are just going to talk past each other. That's just unproductive and pointless.

I posted that.

 

[Spymaster]

because we don't eat for entertainment ...

You do. You've said as much.

You said that you eat meat because of your metabolism (which is probably bollocks); and that you eat meat because you don't have access to suitable vegetarian options (which is definitely bollocks).

Fuck off, you disingenuous tit.

 

[zxspectrum]

And round and round we go.

Either say why, or fuck off.

Because killing for meat has a purpose, killing for entertainment doesn't and I am troubled by those who find killing and maiming an animal pleasurable.

I don't really know how else to answer that question. Surely you can see the difference between killing an animal so you can eat and killing an animal so you can be entertained. In fact fox hunting is not just about killing for sport, it's the whole culture that goes with it - blooding, class, elitism, arrogance. It's not as if this is one guy 'pitting his wits' against a lone prey in some kind of 'fair fight'. It's a whole ethic and it's unpleasant. if you are going to draw no distinction between fox hunting and killing animals for food then I don't know where this discussion can go.

 

[zxspectrum]

You do. You've said as much.

You said that you eat meat because of your metabolism (which is probably bollocks); and that you eat meat because you don't have access to suitable vegetarian options (which is definitely bollocks).

Fuck off, you disingenuous tit.

And you think that's just the same as fox hunting? Now who's being disingenuous!

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Because killing for meat has a purpose, killing for entertainment doesn't and I am troubled by those who find killing and maiming an animal pleasurable.

I don't really know how else to answer that question. Surely you can see the difference between killing an animal so you can eat and killing an animal so you can be entertained. In fact fox hunting is not just about killing for sport, it's the whole culture that goes with it - . It's not as if this is one guy 'pitting his wits' against a lone prey in some kind of 'fair fight'. It's a whole ethic and it's unpleasant. if you are going to draw no distinction between fox hunting and killing animals for food then I don't know where this discussion can go.

If you lived in a hunter gather society then of course. Killing for food is totally reasonable. Hell as a meat eater the idea of killing an animal for food that's had a good life is quite appealing.

As I stated on page 2 opposing fox hunting due to class war fare - blooding, class, elitism, arrogance is also fine.

It's eating eating cheaply farmed meat when you can be fed other ways that I find entertaining to ask people to examine there morals about.

 

[Spymaster]

Because killing for meat has a purpose, killing for entertainment doesn't and I am troubled by those who find killing and maiming an animal pleasurable.

So killing for meat has a higher purpose than killing for entertainment?

Again, why?

Your eating meat is a complete indulgence. You could survive perfectly well without it. Despite your ridiculous assertions that you can't live without it, YOU CAN! Arguably, more healthily than us killers.

You're a dishonest cunt and you're wrapping your hypocrisy with your shittily transparent prejudice.

Fuck off.

 

[zxspectrum]

If you lived in a hunter gather society then of course. Killing for food is totally reasonable. Hell as a meat eater the idea of killing an animal for food that's had a good life is quite appealing.

As I stated on page 2 opposing fox hunting due to class war fare - blooding, class, elitism, arrogance is also fine.

It's eating eating cheaply farmed meat when you can be fed other ways that I find entertaining to ask people to examine there morals about.

I'm quite happy with my morals. It's you that isn't.

I'm not entirely sure what you want from this. Would you rather I agreed with fox hunting? I'd think you'd know when to pick your battles given that, with regard to what this topic is about, we're on the same side. But if you'd rather tear strips off someone with whom you probably have a lot in common, this being a fairly progressive/socialist site, then that's on you.

You're a vegetarian, I respect that. I have no issue with that at all. But please don't insult me because I disagree with your appraisal of my habits. I do not take pleasure in the killing of animals.

 

[8ball]

I can see a difference between killing for food and killing for fun - there's a bit of sophistry going on here.

 

[zxspectrum]

So killing for meat has a higher purpose than killing for entertainment?

Again, why?

Your eating meat is a complete indulgence. You could survive perfectly well without it. Despite your ridiculous assertions that you can't live without it, YOU CAN! Arguably, more healthily than us killers.

You're a dishonest cunt and you're wrapping your hypocrisy with your shittily transparent prejudice.

Fuck off.

Do you want me to answer your questions, or do you want to tell me to fuck off? I'm happy with either because I think having a conversation with you is like talking to a child at this point.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

You're a vegetarian, I respect that. I have no issue with that at all. But please don't insult me because I disagree with your appraisal of my habits. I do not take pleasure in the killing of animals.

I said in the post you quoted I eat meat

 

[Spymaster]

Do you want me to answer your questions, or do you want to tell me to fuck off?

I want you to fuck off.

Do you really think you're coming here with something that hasn't been said before?

 

[zxspectrum]

I said in the post you quoted I eat meat

fair enough.

 

[zxspectrum]

I want you to fuck off.

Do you really think you're coming here with something that hasn't been said before?

Is your problem the eating of meat, or the way you think meat is harvested?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

zxspectrum and Spymaster. What we drinking tonight then folks?

 

[zxspectrum]

zxspectrum and Spymaster. What we drinking tonight then folks?

the blood of my enemies

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Go on then. Who were you?

 

[zxspectrum]

Sorry?

 

[brogdale]

Hey, rich twats...

 

[Spymaster]

Is your problem the eating of meat, or the way you think meat is harvested?

I don't have a problem.

And define "harvested".

 

[zxspectrum]

I don't have a problem.

And define "harvested".

No, i think i'll leave it at this point. It's a fairly unambiguous word and given that you've called me a cunt and told me to fuck off twice you're being a bit dishonest if you claim not to have a problem. Good night.

 

[Spymaster]

No, i think i'll leave it at this point. It's a fairly unambiguous word and given that you've called me a cunt and told me to fuck off twice you're being a bit dishonest if you claim not to have a problem. Good night.

Good night.

You mendacious cunt.